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> Saying that men as a gender are responsible makes the assumption that all or most men are like the people portrayed in the OP.

No, that's not what it assumes. It assumes that only men are capable of fixing the "boys club" attitudes. And that is spot on. A big part of the problem—and the part that is most easily addressed—is what happens when women are not around. Men need to take responsibility for fixing that.

Members of HR do not come with us to team offsites. Maybe they should, but they wouldn't have been around then.

> None of Vic's compliments, which by the way happened outside the office, constitute sexual harassment.

1. "Outside the office," is irrelevant (it's ALWAYS wrong to make inappropriate remarks about a colleague or—worse—subordinate), and since the remarks were made at a company offsite they can be considered in a "work environment."

2. You're way off base. Commenting on a colleague's personal appearance to other colleagues is totally inappropriate. Commenting on a colleague's appearance in a bathing suit is totally inappropriate.

> By vilifying innocent remarks, you're only further making men not want to work with women

I hope men like you feel uncomfortable enough to get the fuck out of this industry. I don't want to work with you, and I'm male! Get lost!

> while promoting a culture of oversensitivity and political correctness

The problem is that the offenders in these situations aren't AT ALL sensitive to the feelings of others. There are a plethora of examples of men alienating women with their shitty and insensitive comment and attitudes. Reactions to this are not about "oversensitivity" but rather a plea for ANY KIND OF SENSITIVITY AT ALL PLEASE.

> Who wants to work in an environment where they can't make a simple compliment without being publicly ousted as a mysogynist offender?

If you think these remarks are appropriate and non-sexual then you should probably just keep your mouth shut.