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Re:Italia Startup Visa on Thursday January 15, 2015 @08:57AM (#8892461)
Oh, sidenote: probably the biggest italian company, FIAT, recently moved (fiscally speaking) out of Italy, towards states with lower fiscal pressure (Netherlands, if I recall correctly).

And FIAT was/is big and competent enough to handle all of the sh*t italian laws impose.

Just saying.

Re:Italia Startup Visa on Thursday January 15, 2015 @07:31AM (#8892163)
Yup, and those two sum up.

It's not State XOR Mafia. It's state AND Mafia. As if state alone was not enough.

Re:Italia Startup Visa on Thursday January 15, 2015 @07:28AM (#8892158)
Lombardy is not Italy, you know. Come down here in Catanzaro (where i'm from) and let's talk about this again.
Re:Italia Startup Visa on Thursday January 15, 2015 @06:01AM (#8891868)
Yeah sure. Go open a startup company in Naples, wait for someone to ask you for /pizzo/ and let's talk again about this.
Re:Italia Startup Visa on Thursday January 15, 2015 @05:53AM (#8891843)
As as an Italian expat:

Startups in Italy. Yeah sure. Go on. Lol.

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Re:Italia Startup Visa on Thursday January 15, 2015 @05:47AM (#8891827)
You stupid idiot. You're describing "regime dei minimi" as if it was a regular taxation for freelancers, but it's definitely not.

"Regime dei minimi" is a taxation level available only if you bill not more than 30'000 €/year. Note this is not net income, but gross income.

So you go down to 22'000€ after taxes (21% + 5%) and then you have to take away your own costs, and then you can keep some money for yourself. Also, if you live in a big city (let's say Rome or Milan) that is definitely not going to be enough to live a peaceful life and raise a family.

Oh, but that's a secondary problem: the first one is finding clients that are actually going to pay you in full.

If anything goes wrong laws take ages and the cost of lawyers and time spent in court vastly overcomes what you're losing.