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which "evidence"? The one published by you? Or the fact that there were Russian people murdered in Izyum and Kupyansk after ukranians entered there, and for which they proudly posted the pictures of murdered " Russian collaboratirs" on social networks? Or the fact that they dispersed multiple times anti infantry mines inside Donetsk? That they often shell Donetsk living quarters and center just because these are "russians* (in the past they blamed the Russian army for that, but Donetsk people know better).

Go to their telegram channels, and read how they speak about killing Russians, because they are Russians. " Rizat rusnyu".. And before you tell me this is s because if the war, I will remind yoi about the massacre in the trade union house in Odessa, none of the perpetrators punished, and about what was going on in Donbass since 2014. You are just being fed one part of what happens, and also this in a heavily censored form.

"Nazis killing Russian invaders.."

I am talking about Russians who live in Ukraine! They get murdered! Actually, there are very many of them, but for you these people do not exist. They don't have a right for their own identity, according to the west.

"Jewish president.."

I am a jew myself. So? You bought this Zelensky, and now the ukranian nazis are kosher? Since they are murdering Russians, and not Jews, as they did in the past?

How exactly the murder of Russian people (civilians) by Ukranians is an irrelevant topic?

It is by far not just the Azov batallion.. you just don't have a clue to what is going on, and of course your state and your supposedly objective media have no intention of helping you to find out.

Please stop replying with premade answers.

Have you heard about the people killed by the ukranian nazis (sorry that I offend your sensibility, but this is precisely what they are, try to speak to them on their telegram channels), when they entered Izyum and Kupyansk? Have you heard of civilians in Donetsk who they target on a regular basis?

You first poisoned them with backing their nazi past rewriting, then you backed them with oppressing people who identify themselves with the Russian people. Then you sent them weapons.

I at least will not forget any of that, even after you rewrite all the history you can imagine.

And who is going to protect Russian people rights in these "nation states on the border of Russia"? Your country? The only moment when you care about "Russian people rights", is when some ignorant youngsters take out to the streets to make another "revolution" which might destroy their state.

You poor thing..

Look at yourself: they took from you the ability to think..

Which interest did you have in Ukraine, apart from your devilish war mongering? And you are speaking of "Russian propaganda"..

War propaganda.

Have you ever asked yourself, whether you have any right whatsoever to "improve" other countries? It looks like this simple question is very rarely being asked in US..

you are obsessed about what you call "trolling", but once upon a time it was called " irony", "sarcasm", " humour" after all..

You are taking yourself soooo seriously.. Is it really justified?

no :)

It is because they are supposed to be the "good guys". Empty heads filled with hollywood lies.

Well, it is surely not wrong about the main detail: who gave the order to blow the pipeline.Unless you are living in a fantasy world, as most commenters here. But then, americans know so little about the world outside of their empire, that it is not very surprising.

"nobody can trust Putin" - it was admitted both by Merkel, and by another high ranked politician whose name I do not remember at this moment that the goal of Minsk agreement was not to give autonomy to Donbass, which did not accept ukranian nationalism, but to buy time for Ukrainian army to rearm.

So I think you are confusing things.

Why don't you try to read the russian version of the wikipedia article on the Ribbentrop Molotov agreement? It is not as short as the catchy phrase "USSR and Germany were allies before 1941", but I think it gives a fuller picture of the events.

And while we are speaking about nazi allies here is one of the many links about the ties US had with nazi germany:

https://therealnews.com/d-day-how-the-us-supported-hitlers-r...

And then there is also the british royal family.

In my view, this gives a fuller description of the reality back then .

I did not do that. But the fact is that Ukraine rehabilitates Bandera and other murderers and nazi collaborationists, has armed forces where people tatoo swastics on their skin, and has been promoting vicious antirussian sentiment well before 2014, ignored by the western media for a well understood reason (if we drop hypocrisy).

All this while for Russia the Second World War was and is one of the defining moments of their history and identity.

Soviet army was not dividing people by nationality, they were all "soviet people".So why do you choose to do so now? (Actually, a rhetorical question).

I came to Israel before you, and I can assure the ukranian fellow that many jews from Russia indeed have deep ties to Russia, despise those who came to power in Ukraine and especially their ideology, and have memory longer than the "long memory" of the ukrainians as to ukranian murderers throughout history.

Half truth is worse than a lie. But without half truths, what would happen to US efforts to rewrite the history?

Everyone in Europe knew in 1945 who defeated the nazis. And it was neither US nor Britain.

Royden.

Perhaps it is also because the Soviet Army liberated Auschwitz. And made the immense sacrifice to defeat the nazi reich, while Britain and US waited till 1944 to open the second front in Europe.

"Joseph and his brothers" by Thomas Mann.