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I did a lot of leetcode when I first started. Nowadays, and especially in this market, it's not hard to find companies not doing any leetcode style interviews. If you have a decent GitHub profile and years of experience you can outright say in interviews that you won't be doing any leetcode style problems. It's an engineers market, take advantage of it!
For my own sake I'm probably going to be completely anon, but you should check out the following site for a community of overemployed folks:

https://overemployed.com/

I guess technically the math works out that way :)

In my opinion I'm seriously mediocre as an engineer. Slightly above average at best. I'm just good at managing my time, which is more of a business/personal skill than any engineering skill.

I think it's an apt analogy. You seem to be implying that all landlords are huge corporations that are gobbling up all the properties out there.

Individual landlords like myself are small time. I'm pretty much a mom and pop restaurant and you're criticizing me like I'm the McDonalds corporation.

I personally know 80% of my tenants and they've been renting from me for years.

I also dislike working at these places. This is something I'll be doing for a few years and then leaving corporate life with a big pile.
I was going to spend some time justifying my rental portfolio but alas I fear it will fall on deaf ears.

Thank you for your somewhat constructive criticism. I'm sorry to hear that you feel that way. Given your username, I assume you are just as worldly as I am. In that case, I hope your HODLing habits lead to success. Eventually, you will become the same "evil" that you despise... you will eventually become... me. HODL!!

I purposely job hunt for low performing teams/companies who are willing to pay for experience. Also, managing my calendar religiously is a must.
Senior to Staff positions at medium to large private or mid cap public companies expect little from their engineers :).

Definitely not 10x and I suck at leetcode style problems. I'm probably a 2xer who acts like a 1xer. That's the real secret. Don't overachieve.

Currently at 1.8m ish total comp:

  - 1.2m cash
  - 300k RSUs (probably worthless or I leave before 4 year vesting cliff)
  - 200k equity (only one job is at a publicly traded company)
  - <150k cash bonus
Maybe, which means yes it is legal.

Will anybody come after me? Doubt it's worth it to come after an engineer making 250K and will work at your company for less than 2 years.

I've been working multiple remote jobs for the past 4 years. I'm currently working 4 full time engineering roles and a part time contract. It's been tough but a great experience.

The main struggle is scheduling and making sure you can make all the meetings. It's also tough finding the right job which gives you autonomy to form your schedule.

The main perks are obviously money and not caring about getting laid off. In this market it's pretty hard to get laid off, we shall see how it plays out over the next few years.

Re:Ask HN: How to become a millionaire in 3 years? (2022) on Tuesday February 01, 2022 @04:03PM (#30169213)
I work around 40-50 hours per week. Most of the teams that I work on are pretty low performing and the actual work involved isn't too bad. I try not to submit anything early when I'm finished.
Re:Ask HN: How to become a millionaire in 3 years? (2022) on Tuesday February 01, 2022 @02:46PM (#30168122)
I became a multi millionaire this past decade, and I think it's now become even easier to become one. Here are the steps I took:

  1. Work remotely
  2. Live in a low cost of living area
  3. Work multiple remote jobs (I currently work 4 full time SWE roles)
  4. Invest that money (Equities, real estate, side hustles)
  5. Rinse and repeat
This pattern has lead me to an 8 figure net worth (primarily in real estate rentals and retirement accounts) and a 7 figure income that doesn't even include passive income such as rentals and dividends in the mid 6 figures.

It took me a decade to achieve that but with remote work growing and inflation increasing it should be achievable in 5-6 now. Will 1 million be worth what it was? Probably not, but you'll never be poor.

Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @12:19PM (#29996599)
Wow. I need to step my game up...

I've been working 4 jobs SWE roles remotely (3 full time, 1 part time) for several years now. I have to admit that the most challenging aspect of working multiple jobs is finding the right balance of working hard enough at each job just to get by. Automating a lot of the busy work sounds challenging for more hands on technical roles. I may need to take some pay cuts to find easier roles that I can automate.

If anyone has any tips on how to automate parts of their engineering work I'm all ears!

Re:Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs? on Friday January 14, 2022 @04:27PM (#29940678)
Uncomfortable/unpopular reasons:

  1. More money, companies are throwing money at engineers
  2. Companies are having trouble hiring and it's getting easier to get a job
  3. Inflation concerns, need more money
  4. Most jobs suck (I work at 4 companies now and have worked at 30 companies in my 10 year career)
  5. Retiring early, read reason 4. Working for a company sucks.
Re:Ask HN: Where Is the COLA? on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @12:50PM (#29910315)
Agreed. I'm fully aware that the pay jump train ends sometime. I recommend people take advantage of this tactic when they're young.

My own tactic is to move jobs often, but also take on multiple remote roles at the same time.

Re:Ask HN: Where Is the COLA? on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @12:48PM (#29910276)
Agreed. I shouldn't have assumed the OP was an engineer. This strategy is definitely software engineering specific for the most part.
Re:Ask HN: Where Is the COLA? on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @11:02AM (#29908286)
There isn't a law requiring companies to give COLA raises so most companies won't. The reason they don't need to? You're not accounting for COLA yourself, so why should a company?

Do COLA adjustments in your own job/career. That's why so many people are moving jobs in this market. That's why so many high paying engineers move jobs every couple of years. COLA baby!

I tend to move jobs every 2-3 years and receive a 25-50% raise each time. COLA baby!

Re:The Rise of Performative Work on Sunday January 09, 2022 @04:15PM (#29867400)
https://www.linkedin.com/in/nice-try

In all seriousness, I create a new profile whenever I get a new job and would not be sharing any details here.

Re:The Rise of Performative Work on Sunday January 09, 2022 @03:44PM (#29867151)
I have to work at places that have staggered standups and meetings. 7am standup here, 10 am standup there. That kind of thing. I miss the occasional random meeting but I let people know.

I also underachieve in terms of moving up the corporate ladder. I've been asked to move into management for more money, and I always reject those types of promotions since it usually means more unavoidable meetings. Also, I don't bother working on difficult projects, I choose to work in roles where I have clear expertise and can complete work in 2-4 times the expected timeline.

Re:The Rise of Performative Work on Sunday January 09, 2022 @03:41PM (#29867128)
That's literally what the article is describing, and most people wouldn't consider that fraud, merely incompetence or poor corporate incentives. I'm just leaning into the expectations and ironically doing it better?
Re:The Rise of Performative Work on Sunday January 09, 2022 @03:37PM (#29867092)
> True it may not be a crime, but every company I've worked for (mostly "big tech") has a clause in my contract saying that I can't work another full-time job. If I were, and they found out, I'd probably get fired.

I don't doubt that some contracts state you can't work another job, but I would consider rereading some of your contracts. Especially in work friendly states, it's hard to enforce those types of clauses and companies are really good at wording things like it's a restriction when it's really a legal suggestion.

> and they found out

How exactly would an employer easily find out? I also worked multiple jobs at FAANG level big tech, you would have to explicitly say something to get found out. In fact, the big tech jobs I've had were genuinely the most administratively bloated and least likely to find out.

Re:The Rise of Performative Work on Sunday January 09, 2022 @03:34PM (#29867065)
Bingo. I think people have a hard time understanding this. I always get asked, "What happens if you get fired?", I have 4 jobs... I certainly don't want to lose a job, but it's not a big deal to me.

Also, finding a new job has never been that difficult, especially in this market.

Re:The Rise of Performative Work on Sunday January 09, 2022 @03:32PM (#29867047)
Never come close at all. Been doing the multiple full time job thing for several years. As long as you're getting work done and communicating fairly well people don't seem to question things.

Getting the right meeting cadence down is the toughest part. I make sure to understand the company's meeting culture well before taking any offer. If the meeting schedule doesn't work I leave, it's the biggest factor in any job for me.

Re:The Rise of Performative Work on Sunday January 09, 2022 @08:56AM (#29863230)
Genius! Except that level of pretending to work is almost too much work.
Re:The Rise of Performative Work on Sunday January 09, 2022 @08:55AM (#29863213)
Yep, I've asked before and consulted a few lawyers. Not actually fraud. Kind of a grey area unless I'm explicitly stealing trade secrets or IP.

As for getting fired, I've never been fired but I've also never been caught. Getting kind of good at it, doing this for the past 5+ years. I would assume the nice thing about getting fired in this situation is having multiple incomes to fall back on. I've never had trouble finding new jobs.

Re:The Rise of Performative Work on Sunday January 09, 2022 @08:52AM (#29863184)
None of my employers have sold my info like that... yet. Also, it's not illegal to have another form of income, even a W2 income.
Re:The Rise of Performative Work on Sunday January 09, 2022 @03:14AM (#29861370)
I genuinely love the rise of performative work culture.

I am someone who spent years frustrated by the performative BS at my workplaces. Actually being proactive was not as important as achieving some superficial engineering task that didn't actually solve anything.

So, I flipped the script and leveraged this silliness into a 7 figure salary by working multiple remote jobs. I work 4 SWE jobs, spend about 10-15 hours per week per job, act like I'm "working" for the rest of that time, get paid. Works for me, works for them!

Re:How to quit like a boss on Thursday January 06, 2022 @09:45PM (#29834131)
It's not advice. It's just what I do.

I've never had a contract that explicitly stated I couldn't work multiple jobs. (I work multiple full time jobs now)

Re:How to quit like a boss on Thursday January 06, 2022 @07:31PM (#29832888)
I think it's really cool that this particular employee had a great quitting experience.

However, this is the worst advice I have ever read. Good experiences should not be translated into advice. Your employer is not your friend. You may be lucky enough to have friends who share the same employer, but at the end of the day you are employed by a business, treat it accordingly.

Here's how I handle quitting in a remote world (as a cold hearted jerk/machine, aka a business). I give my two weeks notice, and start my new job the same day I give notice. I effectively have no real work to do the last two weeks at my current job, and have a nice relaxed onboarding at my new job. At the end of the two weeks I collect two paychecks. Rinse and repeat every 1-2 years to collect a 30-40% raise.

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