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Congrats Ry

I just throw Deno into my agents file and it gets installed in whatever environment I'm working in.

However, the truth is that writing isomorphic javascript programs in the age of agentic coding is much less important to me than it was a few years ago.

Singapore would do better banning cars altogether.

As a former CEO of HTMX I thank you for your service as the current CEO of HTMX.

And yet, they don't advertise content hashes so the data cannot be distributed by the software.

Yes like all of this would benefit from their team studying the implementation of Tahoe-LAFS.

Upside: data is always available even if Bluesky's funding is pulled. Downside: we lose deletes.

IPFS already exists. What I want is distributed Bluesky, since it's a product success and I do like most of the proto and the team. Do you want to fix this? I just spoke with Claude and I don't think it'd be too difficult these days for us to fix this in the core product.

Having the content available everywhere seems like the definition of a distributed system to me. Hashing content is not a discovery issue, one simply iterates over a list of hosts and asks if they have the msgs by their hash.

Yes, and is that useful within the structure of the Bluesky ecosystem?

What if PDSes replicated the content of PDSes? Then it'd be available.

Yah it clearly has always done this, but why doesn't it support multi-PDS replication?

But you're right that the screenshot proto and the copy and paste proto are quite successful as a distributed system these days.

Yah atproto auths moving data from the pds to the index, similar to like https, but they missed authenticated distributed data storage somewhere along the way. Why is that, I wonder?

The article seems to forget about content addressable storage and signing key cryptography and how these tools might make their software more distributed.

Like peers could sign sites?

We need git-ssb

Yes, and it only supports storing one's data in one place. If we use local-first as our measuring stick for a decentralized system then ATProto fails since we can't store the msgs anywhere -- such as on the nodes of my friends. Prior art such as secure-scuttlebot had this figured out, and thus no one ever complained about ssb being centralized.

It is not common, but it is becoming more common: https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/

Twitter Bootstrap 2 was the height of web design. If we can go back and stay there forever why should anyone fault our society.

ATProto would need to use signing key cryptography and content addressable storage to be distributed. If we can't store our data with third parties or create an offline-first system then it's not a decentralized social network.

Codex-cli / OpenClaw. If you need a browser use Playwright-mcp.

I can't see why I'd want an agent to click around Gnome or Ubuntu desktop but maybe that's just me?

I use it. I think everyone should try the original version out before it gets too muddled so they get the spirit of the thing even if it doesn't end up being the thing -- in a safe space where you know what data you're allowing it to claw thru.

This is why I'm hoping fiatjaf has a recommendation here. I have a feeling he might have a proposal that solves this. But doesn't solve all of it, just some of it.

What's stopping us from doing both?

If multiple personal data servers (pdses) share the same set of posts how would we guarantee that they are tamper resistant to third parties?

Do you have ideas about how Bluesky could decentralize?

How does Anthropic detect that a person is using OpenClaw vs using Claude Code?

Forgive me if someone asked this already and I can't find it in the comments.

I received the error, but then my account reflected that I had been credited the $20 eventually but still showed that I could claim it.

lol, email me! I'm still an active user. [email protected] or 773-510-8601

As an early Deno purist I must invoke the 10 Mistakes talk that Ryan gave when he launched Deno: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M3BM9TB-8yA&t=11s&pp=ygUScnlhb...

Agreed about the article tone. I'm a Deno lifer over here, and will definitely not try to cover up the mistakes they've made along the way or the trouble their deploy product has had over the past few months. Ryan Dahl is obviously polarizing as a personality for many people, always has been since he decided to "hate almost all software" or even before that when he created Node.js.

I don't use Fresh. Serverless is kind of a weird offering that forces developers to do a lot of work to adjust their programs to running all over the place. I even wish Deno had never supported NPM because that ruined their differentiator.

I'm going to keep using Deno and I hope they use this opportunity to refocus on their core product offering so that I can move back to using it from this VPS that is hosting all of my Deno servers right now.