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Re: on Tuesday January 21, 2025 @06:53PM (#42786811)
Well if you have evidence to the contrary, do present it. I'm keen to listen.

You said:

> Do you have any idea what the effect on estrogen is on the body and behaviors?

But then you didn't explain what you meant by this, or exactly how it relates to what we were discussing in terms of policy. Could you elaborate, please?

If you can demonstrate that the points I made above were incorrect, that male-inclusive policy in the areas we've discussed actually isn't having a detrimental impact on women and girls, then I would like to know about it. Thanks.

Accusing me of being bigoted, hateful, ignorant, etc. doesn't have any effect on changing my view, by the way.

Re: on Saturday January 18, 2025 @01:36PM (#42750318)
It's a website created by feminist women to document the effect on female athletes of male-inclusive policy in women's sport. Again, not hateful - just pointing out the problem.

As I mentioned above, this is only one area of many where women are disadvantaged and harmed by such policy. Another is women's prisons. In some jurisdictions, male inmates are allowed to transfer to the female prison estate if they claim to have a so-called "female gender identity". In every prison system that has introduced this, female prisoners have been sexually assaulted, raped and even impregnated by these males.

Some examples:

- https://4w.pub/male-inmate-charged-with-raping-woman-inside-...

- https://nypost.com/2022/04/25/transgender-rikers-inmate-gets...

- https://news.wttw.com/2020/02/19/lawsuit-female-prisoner-say...

It is clear that this policy has had a horrendous impact on women prisoners. Do you agree that politicians on the left made a grave error of judgement, to say the least, in supporting and promoting it?

Criticizing the left does not imply endorsement of the right. Why do you assume I support conservative politicians? Actually I've never voted for one in my life, and don't intend to. I don't support their policy on banning abortion either.

That list you linked is very relevant to my point, however, in that every single abuser on there is male. It's the same problem I'm talking about above.

Re: on Thursday January 16, 2025 @08:09AM (#42724628)
Exclusionary, yes. Having spaces that are only for women obviously should exclude males.

Hateful, no. Why is that your assumption?

I can link you to evidence of everything I mentioned, if you're interested. Perhaps we can start with women's sports, as that is so well documented. This site lists hundreds of instances of female athletes being denied their winning places in competition because one or more males were permitted to compete against them: https://shewon.org

That's not fair, is it?

Re: on Wednesday January 15, 2025 @06:34PM (#42718797)
Yet these males are in women's prisons, women's shelters, women's sports, in social spaces intended for lesbians, and more. They're attempting to redefine "woman" everywhere they can, so they can impose themselves everywhere that was supposed to be female-only. They're getting law and policy rewritten to enforce this.

That's not existing in peace is it, it's an unwelcome assertion of male dominance over women.

Re: on Tuesday January 14, 2025 @05:59PM (#42705096)
What about bigotry against women? That is the actual effect of pro-trans policy.

The right capitalized on that because the left was too blinded by ideology to see the harm caused to women.