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I'd wager that "it's my body" argument does not try to hide that part of the debate, but instead declares a clear conviction that the fetus up to certain point is not a person, so it's a statement and it's picking a side in said debate, you can argue about that, in fact that's what most pro-life people do, it's even stated in the name _pro-life_ as in, for the life of the fetus, for that you have to conclude that the fetus is indeed a person.

What differentiates a embryo from a toumor? That it has another person's genetic code?

A mistakenly forgotten medical prop is not a part of anyone's body for example, wouldn't it be fucked up for someone not to be able to remove it from their body if the doctors left it inside just because it's not like their tonsils or her appendix? If there's something I don't want inside my body I should be able to decide, if your argument is that it is not "my body" because it is not explicitly "me" like my appendix, then many medical procedures would also be controversial

Is a fetus "someone" else or do we need more than 8 weeks to form a consciousness, how long is that period? I think there's debate to be had there.

while in the vaccine situation we're talking about actual already born humans who are walking around the unvaccinated person every day and there's no debate there, the risk is real, and the other people can actually be verbally vocal about not wanting to be involved with unvaccinated people.

Many times they don't work from a physical location, they do, but a phone number is harder to keep track of than Facebook messages

A lot of small businesses thrive on Facebook pages, restaurants too, at least in my country. Those would go under fast

What do you think of abortion? I agree about body autonomy but it frustrates me to no end to see woman asking for this basic right, even when their lives depend on it and it being denied, sterilization is also not easy to obtain for a woman.

But then comes someone who is scared about potential side effects to a vaccine in the middle of a pandemic crisis, so much so that they're willing to risk their peers and they cover themselves with "body autonomy" arguments, we already live in a country where people don't have body autonomy, it just does not affect you, until now.

What if you're asymptomatic?

People having control over their own bodily functions is one of the main arguments of pro-abortion, right?

The counter argument being that when conception happens it's not just one person anymore, this has lots of levels of restriction over a person's body depending on when you consider this "conception" of a conscious being happens

Covid can be asymptomatic, and transmissible, that's the thing.

When you realize it's potentially already too late

Well, objectively, you can't have an art museum that has only beautiful art in it, since beauty in art is subjective and non quantifiable, so yes there can not be an art museum that has only beautiful paintings, and the beautiful paintings that supposedly are there might only beautiful to the eye of the curator.

Either way, the point is not wether or not you can have a place with discourse with the all good qualities described, it is more so that because those qualities are not quantifiable, it is impossible to know for sure.

El Salvador is not Venezuela as much as you'd like to think we're all the same, it's a totally different political landscape, we had a civil war where 80k people died in a cold war proxy and the guerrillas were consolidated into FMLN and death squad members formed ARENA, nowhere else in Latin America did a communist/capitalist conflict had this outcome, guerillas never became a party anywhere else as a means to end the war, all these deaths, for the very same people who formed political parties and for what?

Endless corruption when they got to power, we're sick of it.

check how the former ARENA candidate for presidency Javier Siman, who's also a high ranking member of ANEP and ARENA's party leader lobbies in the US for support of his own interests, it's not a secret except for the vast majority of people in El Salvador who are not educated enough to research on that, oh btw, who didn't prioritize education for 30 years? You guessed it ARENA and FMLN,

you might call giving most kids in school a populist move by Bukele, but he's actually closing a technological gap by doing that.

Wanna know how FMLN handled tech? Like this: https://youtu.be/FVxkvnWek-0

> What's your twitter president?

> It's twit-twitter dot com heh, that's the party one right? Eeh

A disgrace

It's really superficial, for example it mentions arbitrary descisions from part of the supreme judges, but completely gloss over the fact that they were members of political parties and we're seen at rallies all over the country, they delayed clear cases of corruption from previous governments and that's more than enough reason to get them out according to the constitution.

People want ARENA and FMLN out of the country for good.

Sorry if this is not on your sensibilities, but that assembly was very corrupt so much so that people wanted them out as soon as possible, he did not command the military to do what they did, the military showed up in support for the people who were also there.

He has 90% approval rate on the opposition owned polls, and he has supermajority of the assembly for a reason, 30 years of pure corruption without any consequences by the previous governments, you'll not find enough people to oppose him to fill a boulevard.

The new assembly just passed a bill finally allowing Salvadorans in other countries to vote in all future elections, if that's not democracy I don't know what is, if the opposition is against the overwhelming support he has, maybe they should've done things right by the people in those 30 years, but they didn't and they're finally out.

And it was done democratically, by the people without a single protest.

Read into what the traditional parties did to try to block Bukele for running for president, they closed a political party overnight with a congressman from that party still in the assembly, which was unconstitutional, but nobody said a word there.