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Re:Apollo 11 Guidance Computer vs. USB-C Chargers on Friday February 07, 2020 @07:54PM (#22272847)
As we're in a closed energy loop we're going to have to address this, sooner rather than later.

Every starry eyed AI/ML piece has me thinking, yes but where's the power going to come from? And where's the power on top to encrypt all this?

And quantum computing? Super-cooling at scale? Aye right pal.

The elegance of the AGC and it's approach to computing could provide a good starting point to a solution out of our mess.

to quote from a 2004 paper by Don Eyles, one of the AGC programmers:

"When Hal Laning designed the Executive and Waitlist system in the mid 1960's, he made it up from whole cloth with no examples to guide him. The design is still valid today. The allocation of functions among a sensible number of asynchronous processes, under control of a rate- and priority-driven preemptive executive, still represents the state of the art in real-time GN&C computers for spacecraft."

https://www.doneyles.com/LM/Tales.html

Re:Apollo 11 Guidance Computer vs. USB-C Chargers on Friday February 07, 2020 @05:52PM (#22272004)
That's the same SpaceX that has launched 240 visible objects into orbit in the last year?

More than doubling the number of visible man made objects (~200 till the start of the SpaceX Starlink project).

And with fcc approval for another 12,000 and plans for a further 30,000.

It excites me alright, but certainly not in a good way...

Re:Apollo 11 Guidance Computer vs. USB-C Chargers on Friday February 07, 2020 @05:19PM (#22271718)
Yes, just looked it up.

I was (partially) wrong about the un-synced frequency though. The synchro's for the docking radar ran from a different power circuit than the AGC, and whilst they were frequency locked they weren't in phase; resulting in timings getting thrown off and the priority issues.

Edit: Superb deep dive on AGC in Ars from last week https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/01/a-deep-dive-into-the...

Re:Apollo 11 Guidance Computer vs. USB-C Chargers on Friday February 07, 2020 @04:15PM (#22271046)
The real fun with the AGC on landing happened on Apollo 14, with a flipped bit in the abort landing flag. Percussive maintenance temporarily flipped the bit back, giving enough time for ground control to develop a hack. Didn't they just ignore the warnings on Apollo 11? And I think it was non synced timing references rather than strictly resource availability that got them on 11