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I miss the days when corrupt politicians at least made the pretense of trying to hide it.

It really does feel like most tech leaders are having an internal struggle that they externalize and make all of our problems.

Have you seen Musks Twitter timeline? That guy is so chronically online and desperate to be liked that it's just sad. How can you be the richest man in the world and yet so deeply pathetic?

Same with Zuck's attempt at being "cool" now and don't even get me started on Benioff's whole weird "Aloha" thing.

Deeply insecure, unhappy people, despite having all the wealth in the world. And they're gonna make sure all of us are just as unhappy, because if they can't buy happiness, why should anyone else have it?

I wouldn't call the fall of the only socialist superpower at the time social progress.

How is it not violence if people get hurt or die as the direct result of ones actions?

Just because you don't like being made aware of the violence committed by your preferred system doesn't make it less violent.

Here's the definition according to the Cambridge dictionary:

> actions that are intended or likely to hurt people or cause damage

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/violence

Please enlighten me as to why it doesn't apply.

The threat of violence is the only way social progress has ever been made.

Since the poster above seems to be German, he especially should know.

The only reason the conservative Bismarck established the German welfare state was to stave off revolution.

The only means through which capitalists give even an inch is through that threat. That's why worker rights are being rolled back in a lot of places right now - because workers have become soft.

Could you name a few?

There's no middle class - only working class, peasants and bourgeoisie.

Just because you don't feel it, doesn't mean the exploitation doesn't exist.

Most of the shareholders are random rich people that have never lifted a finger in their life, yet get to enjoy the fruits of your labor.

Because the world is a deeply fucked up place and the only way to fix it is through radical action, whether you like it or not.

Why is it a zero-sum game to you? Why not advocate for all workers in the name of solidarity? There's no enemy but the class enemy.

Whether you see it or not, it does :-(

There's nothing stopping us from creating an engineers union. Each field should have their own organisation.

We are what is called the labor aristocracy in socialist discourse: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_aristocracy

It is still labor and we are still exploited - most the revenue we generate goes to capitalist interests, not us, the laborers, which are the creators of all revenue.

It's just that we have it comparatively good and so are less inclined to seek out systemic change - a less favorable reading would be that we are bought off to split us off from the rest of the proletariat.

There should be a separate white collar workers union.

But software developers are the working class. Anyone who derives their income from labor is.

You've seen how it works out, that's correct. It works out with five day work weeks, sick leave, ban on child labor etc etc.

All social progress resulted from the threat of violence. It is the only mechanism though which the capitalist class can be convinced to make even the smallest concession.

There's a lot of regressives here actively abusing the flagging functionality for censorship - ironically the same kind of people that'll tell you how much they care about freedom of speech (the unspoken part: but only if its speech they agree with)

I do wonder if building software that runs on your own machine would be a market advantage in the EU.

One could market strongly with the data privacy / sovereignty angle that resonates a lot more in Europe than the US.

This is where governments need to step in. We need grants to open source contributors as a national security priority. If you're helping build alternatives to American Big Tech, the state should sponsor that.

Are there any specific Microsoft products you would prioritize?

I'd envision building a plug-in replacement to facilitate switching.

> That includes more than hacking and startups

Is literally what the guidelines say. The political implications of tech should be well within that purview.

If Europe has no industry, why is Trump so upset about the trade deficit in goods?

Yes, I fully agree - this is a super important thing the EU needs to do if it wants any chance at homegrown competition.

I'd say claiming that tech policy relating to AI and it's global implications are not interesting to people working in tech and AI is a bad faith argument - calling it lacking intellectual curiosity is once again an attempt at a good-faith reading of what is an absurd point to make.

Same, I'd love if the EU sponsored the development of open source alternatives. I'm tired of the American tech industry and how it's towing the (anti-European) party line - just give me a way to make a living while building competitors!

What would said tech independence actually take? Which American services would be highest priority to replace?

In other words, if I were an EU startup, who should I compete with/try to clone?

Maybe it's time we realize free markets are ... bad sometimes?

Why are we sacrificing our sovereignty to an abstract ideology?

Then we disagree and I'd challenge you on lacking the intellectual curiosity called for in the guidelines. But that's okay - as long as you don't see a need to censor on that basis.

Wouldn't you say international tensions based on tech policy are an interesting phenomenon and of interest to people working in tech? I'd say it squarely fits that descriptor.

It has gotten much worse in terms of speech suppression. https://www.thefire.org/news/twitter-no-free-speech-haven-un...