codyvoda

counterpoint: influencers said they wiped the floor with everyone so it must have happened

it’s not magic. it can make meaningful contributions (if you actually invest in learning the tools + best practices for using them)

you’re taking an anecdote and blowing it out of proportion to fit your preformed opinion. yes, when you start with the tool and do literally no work it makes bad PRs. yes, it’s early and experimental. that doesn’t mean it doesn’t work (I have plenty of anecdotes that it does!)

the truth lies in between and the mob mentality it’s magic or complete bullshit doesn’t help. I’d love to come to a thread like this and actually hear about real experiences from smart people using these kind of tools, but instead we get this bullshit

is that what I said? if you can’t read documentation and follow basic instructions to get a tool to work you’re stupid. you asked a snarky question like it’s some gotcha. once again, if you actually use the tool and read the docs and can’t figure it out, I think it’s a skill issue

it can do this step. once again, this launched 2 days ago and people are using it for the first time

if you have used it for more than a few hours (or literally just read the docs) and aren’t stupid, you know this is easily solved

you’re giving into mob mentality

because we react like this

engineers are testing promising new technology. a mob (of probably half or more bots) is having a [redacted] perpetuating the anti-narrative they huffed themselves up into believing. and now we’re in a meta-[redacted] as if either A) redditors and armchair engineers here have valid opinions on this tech and B) marketers and founders with massive incentives to overpromise are telling a true narrative

why? we don’t have to do it. we could actually look at these topics with nuance and not react like literal bots to everything

(sorry I’m just losing my faith in humanity and taking it out in this thread)

why does every engineer keep talking about it like it’s more than marketing hype? why do you actually accept this is a real narrative real people believe? have you talked to the executives implementing these strategies?

redbull does not give you wings. it’s disconcerting to see the lack of nuance in these discussions around these new tools (and yeah sorry this isn’t really aimed at you, but the zeitgeist, apologies)

from who? and why do you listen to them?

think for yourself

and you think this beta system that launched like 2 days ago can’t achieve that?

it also opens the PR as its working session. there are a lot of dials, and a lot of redditor-ass opinions from people who don’t use or understand the tech

the code goes through a PR review process like any other? what are you talking about?

this entire thread is very reddit-y

this stuff works. it takes effort and learning. it’s not going to magically solve high-complexity tasks (or even low-complexity ones) without investment. having people use it, learn how it works, and improve the systems is the right approach

a lot of armchair engineers in here

or press “a”

eh terminology happens. I’d argue we shouldn’t be using “AI”, but here we are. I’d prefer encouraging “vibe coding” to mean this over fighting against the wind

yeah Microsoft could never conceivably develop an extensible source available IDE people love so much they even fork to build $3B companies on the scraps of. absolutely alien!

given that they lose >$4B/year I guess everything is peanuts

it happens on practically every topic. this was technologically not possible 100 years ago and it’ll be fascinating to watch play out. stfu and listen is a legit skill in 2025

…then you’re a malicious person possibly committing fraud/theft and the airline is incompetent and shouldn’t be used once its idiocy becomes public knowledge? the fundamentals of how the world works doesn’t change here lol

wtf are we talking about

Eldo Kim

you stand out when you obviously hide

sure I’d just say it’s a Cursor alternative :shrug:

is this a Claude Code alternative? seems way more GUI-focused

Codex is OSS (and Aider of course) and serve as decent alternatives

this is also from 2008 lol

yep if you can think in the terminal (scripts, files, pipes) you can automate anything

+ the minimalism in the age of ad-les enshittification is refreshing

that’s not what I said or the argument I’m making

…and? people do stupid things and face consequences? so what?

I’d also advocate you don’t expose your unsecured database to the public internet

sure but we’re talking about literal text, not physical drugs or bomb making materials. censorship is silly for LLMs and “jailbreaking” as a concept for LLMs is silly. this entire line of discussion is silly

^I like email as an analogy

if I send a death threat over gmail, I am responsible, not google

if you use LLMs to make bombs or spam hate speech, you’re responsible. it’s not a terribly hard concept

and yeah “AI safety” tends to be a joke in the industry

talk is cheap, show me the vehicle I can purchase that works well

I think this is the one benefit of recent "AI" advancements, it accelerates the downfall with even cheaper garbage. death to the internet, long live the internet

these are almost entirely unrelated problems

we will take this excellent marketing advise under advisement, thank you for your consideration

this is a blog for the Ibis project, directly from one of the main developers/maintainers of the project, about deprecating two (of 20+) backends the project supports and giving the justification

as a project, we're big on using the right tool for the job -- of course we often think that's Ibis. a lot of effort has been put into the ergonomics, taking learnings from pandas and dplyr and SQL and various other Python data projects the team has been instrumental in. if you weren't aware, the creator of pandas also created Ibis and the current lead developer (Phillip Cloud) was also very involved in pandas. we have plenty of other blogs and things on the documentation about the project's ergonomics and thoughts on data processing paradigms

this specific blog isn't intended as "marketing speak" or to somehow be distasteful, it's intended to inform the Ibis community that we're deprecating a backend and justifying why