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Is there any company working on "cloning" or growing teeth? That way we don't have to worry about cavities or root canal any longer? When I was a kid, I was sure we'd have this tech by now. How hard is it to grow teeth?

> So when it’s hidden and in secret and used to harass Chinese people and harass their families and attempt to force them to go back to China.

How can it be "hidden" when it's out in the open?

> So everything must be anti China propaganda.

Nice try. I didn't say everything is anti-china propaganda. I said anti-china propaganda is anti-china propaganda. You are spreading anti-china propaganda.

> Yeah ok. Nice attempt at playing down the seriousness of people getting harassed by a dictatorship.

Yeah. A "dictatorship" that is elected. Putin is a dicator too right?

> Edit: sorry I just realised you created a new account to spread propaganda.

No. You spread propaganda. I'm just trying to state facts. And inject a bit of healthy skepticism. People who parrot "dictatorship" because they saw it on the news or heard some silly youtube grifter say it is spreading propaganda.

> Well, I guess since the US did a bad thing one time we'd better give these nice religious authoritarians a pass, huh?

1 time? The US, against the wishes of the american people, have been trying to overthrow iran for decades. Not to mention dozens of other countries we've overthrown. Though we love to talk about respecting sovereignty and accuse china, russia, etc of violating other nations sovereignty.

> your comment mostly comes off as needless whataboutism.

Whataboutism has been exposed as government affiliated propaganda tactic. Even redditors stopped using it.

> A democracy that was turning into a dictatorship

So just remove a democratically elected leader and install a king? To "save democracy" right?

"Hackers". Yeah right. Do these "hackers" happen to work for the governments trying to destabilize iran by any chance?

> It is traditionally isolationist.

We went from 13 small states to a gigantic continental nation in the 1800s with colonies in asia, the caribbean and africa. In the 1900s we've been at war almost every year and expanded into the greatest empire in human history. The only nation to ever dominate the entire globe. In the 2000s, we been causing trouble everywhere - iraq, libya, syria, ukraine, taiwan, myanmar, south america, africa, etc.

The idea that we are/were isolationist is historical farce just like the notion that white supremacist slave owners cared about liberty/freedom. We are dumb enough to showcase the founders as the symbolizing freedom/liberty, but the rest of the world is dumber for believing it.

> There will be no Great War...

Agreed. This is all theater. If we wanted war, we'd sink one of our carriers in the pacific and blame china for it. We wouldn't be shooting down silly balloons.

If we were getting closer to ww3, the stock market would crater and stay down like 1929. If you start seeing "wall street brokers" and "defenestrate" in news headlines, then maybe it's time to start worrying. The markets are doing fine so you needn't worry.

This is theater. A planned and staged propaganda campaign to get the masses distracted and silly. The easiest way to tell is if NPR and Fox news are singing the same tune.

We went through this last year with the chinese space debris "scare". A nothing turned into mass hysteria by the media and pentagon. Just look at the "hysterias" we went through the past decade. If the masses had a collective memory, we'd simply see through this already and ignore it.

If any of the news hysteria were true, we'd all be dead of covid, putin would have nuked our covid infested corpses and chinese space debris would litter our graves. Oh yeah and democracy would have ended because of a few hundred rowdy protestors.

I wish there was "news" to hold news accountable. I'll bet in a few months, this will all be forgotten. And we'll get another manufactured scare of some kind.

Maybe a or aa or aaa is the genetic equivalent of NOP?

NYC is right by connecticut and connecticut is tiny to begin with. How far can "far north" be?

> I think China erred by sending such a large balloon that was visible to the naked eye, causing the American public to demand it be shot down.

This is simply not true. The artificial hysteria manufactured by the pentagon and media is what caused the outrage. No different than the "chinese rocket debris" hysteria the pentagon and media manufactured last spring. Anyone remember that? Or the chinese man-made island hysteria. Or any other anti-china propaganda which turned out to be nonsense.

> weather balloons fly through our airspace all the time.

Exactly. And yet, the pentagon and the media manufactured a crazy propaganda campaign out of it. Is that china's fault?

> If China never sent that large balloon.. they could have sent a dozen more small ones and no one would have cared.. just like we never cared about the 3 during the previous administration.

Or maybe there was a reason for the manufactured "outrage"? Has nothing to do with the size of the balloon. Maybe people want the unwashed masses distracted with nonsense. Like they always do.

Imagine if china got hysterical over a silly balloon. We'd be laughing at them. Hopefully china and the rest of the world is having a big laugh at our expense. A supposed superpower losing its mind over a weather balloon. If we weren't a joke before, we are one now. The sad thing is the gov/military/media planned this for days/weeks and this is the best they could do.

I doubt it will be a lot of people since most redditors use the app. But the few will cause a mighty ruckus and rage, rage against the dying of the "old". Reddit probably keeps old around because they don't want to deal with the incessant whining. God I would hate to run a social media platform.

As opposed to the country that flew across the pacific and literally attacked and invaded them and killed millions of their people? And still occupy half their country to this day? Can you blame them?

> Unless you’re Chinese.

Exactly. That's why I wrote : Unless you are chinese, you are far better off being "spied on" by the chinese than a western democracy because the chinese don't have any jurisdiction over you.

> Now that we know China has secret police stations all round the world.

"Secret". You might be watching too many youtube "alt-right" grifters or fox news. Don't worry, we've all been there before.

"That’s why, for the first half of May [2016], the cities of Rome and Milan participated in an unusual experiment: they put Chinese police officers on their streets"

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/chinese-cops-are-t...

I remember reading about this years ago. Due to the large number of chinese tourists, it was european and american cities that requested chinese police to deal with chinese tourists issues.

It's amazing how lazy and pathetic the anti-china propaganda is.

Funny how when we do it, it's "aimed toward deterrence". When other nations do it, it's portrayed as a threat to the entire world.

"North korea fires unarmed ICBM into Pacific Ocean with aim toward deterrence."

That's more valid than stripes' title.

By the same logic, the chinese government can't do anything to you, but your own government can arrest you, persecute you, execute you, etc. You'd have to be insane to prefer to be spied on by your own government rather than china.

> I'd rather be spied on by a western democracy than China.

Why? What has china done that's worse? Did they nuke a country? Wipe out entire races of people? Did those nasty chinese invade dozens of countries? There is nothing inherent in a western democracy that makes it good.

> Our intelligence agencies are out of control but there's still better mechanisms for reigning them in than China.

There are no mechanisms for controlling any intelligence agencies. All intelligence agencies around the world are state actors. No law applies to them. Ask the people the intelligence agencies murdered, drugged, experimented on, etc.

Unless you are chinese, you are far better off being "spied on" by the chinese than a western democracy because the chinese don't have any jurisdiction over you. This is all common sense. China isn't going to arrest you and put you in jail. A western democracy will though.

> If you had assets during the pandemic you got many good gifts, some once in a lifetime (those 1.95% mortgages).

Exactly. Real estate doubled, tripled. Stock prices skyrocketed. Established stocks like Apple triple during the pandemic. It's mindboggling. That's after 12 years of continuous growth after the 2008 recession. Going off of assets, the past 15 years has been the greatest economic boom in human history.

What? Many want fauci, the pfizer ceo, etc arrested. People want answers to how covid started, the lockdowns, masks, etc. Everyone here is over covid as a pandemic, but that doesn't mean we don't have questions that we want answered.

Thank you. That's why I read the comments first. Considering tiktok is banned in india, it would have been surprising if they had anything but a skeletan crew to wind down their operation in india.

> I've wondered if these incursions are intentional on the part of the Chinese to provoke a precedent setting response to airborne (and beyond) surveillance.

It's more likely a coordinated event to get people to talk about something other than covid and the last 3 disastrous years. Lets be honest here, neither china nor the US wants people asking uncomfortable questions about covid. Now that the covid era appears to be over, what better way to distract people than "war".

They did the same thing with 9/11. Uncomfortable questions about 9/11 was overshadowed by war and iraqi "wmds". Eventually people forget or move on.

Call me a cynic, but china ends covid lockdowns and all of a sudden we get "surveillance" balloons. And the entire media apparatus has us talking about silly balloons instead of wondering what the last 3 years of covid was about. My guess was a staged "terrorist" attack somewhere to transition us from the covid news cycle. Turns out we got balloons instead. Whatever works in the end.

> Given the ever falling birth rate, it likely never will.

But Seattle and Washington are attracting people from the world and the rest of the nation. Both Seattle and Washington have been experience positive population growth for decades now.