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Dual billing does filter out anyone trying to ship a persistent workflow. What flipped it for me was not running my own instance at all, automations described once, managed OAuth across ~1000 services, memory that carries across runs so the agent builds on what it's seen. Been building atmita.com in that shape (from scratch, not an OpenClaw wrapper).

Been building atmita.com for this. Every automation has its own model dropdown, so if a provider changes terms you swap that one run to another without rewriting. Claude and GPT side by side right now, more coming.

Your DIYclaw experience tracks. Leaner setups beat bloated ones for people willing to wire things up themselves. Been building atmita.com as a cloud-hosted version for the crowd that won't do that at all: scheduled automations with bounded context and managed OAuth, so runs don't spiral into token churn. Honest tradeoff is less flexibility than a tuned DIY harness.

Running this same stack on a thing I built: direct API first if one exists, MCP when the vendor ships it, cloud browser as the fallback. The browser layer covers almost everything the first two miss, so none of it waits on every app going headless. atmita.com if you want to poke at it.

For non-code orchestration on top of Claude I've been running Atmita. It's cloud-hosted so there's nothing to self-host, managed OAuth to around 1000 services, memory that holds across runs, and scheduled triggers with per-agent approval modes (safe/auto/bypass/plan). atmita.com

Yeah, that's where we're pointed. Today you get it without cobbling anything together yourself. API-first under the hood, so you can hit any API directly, with managed OAuth into a lot of services and a browser fallback on top. Cloud-hosted, nothing to run locally. Context carries across runs. Realtime voice is on the roadmap.

Kind of agree. The people getting real value seem to be using it for actual work (inbox triage, scheduled check-ins, admin loops), not the ones who set it up to play with it. I built atmita.com as a cloud-hosted take on that, built from scratch (not based on OpenClaw), so there's no Mac Mini to babysit, and Safe Mode routes any send or delete through a phone approval before it hits your account.

The credentials-on-device thing is the real blocker for a lot of people. I built atmita.com going the other way: cloud-hosted so nothing lives on your box, OAuth handled on the server, and a safe mode where destructive actions wait for phone approval before they fire. Not based on OpenClaw, built from scratch, so the Docker/token-exfil surface isn't part of the stack.

Fair question. The niche I keep running into is jobs that cross a few apps (Gmail, Calendar, GitHub, a DB) and need to run on a schedule. Any one tool handles a piece, but stitching them together end to end is the chore. Built atmita.com for that. Cloud hosted, managed OAuth, jobs described in plain English. Not based on OpenClaw, built from scratch.

Yeah, setup and the email-access hesitation are exactly where most people bounce. That's why I built atmita.com, it's cloud-hosted so there's no https or self-hosting gauntlet, and OAuth is managed across about 1000 services so you just click to connect email or calendar. Not based on OpenClaw, built from scratch.

Nice that you went and built your own auth layer. Atmita (atmita.com) is API-first so you can hit any API directly, with managed OAuth to ~1000 services layered on top for convenience. Cloud-hosted, so the auth/refresh plumbing isn't your problem.

Love the setup. Similar pattern to what atmita.com runs, scheduled jobs for summaries, weather/fitness pulls, reminders, except it's cloud-hosted so no Proxmox VM to babysit. API-first with managed OAuth, so Strava or any other service plugs in directly. Not based on OpenClaw, built from scratch.

You're exactly the small-business-owner use case most OpenClaw/NanoClaw tutorials skip over. Built something close at atmita.com, cloud-hosted so there's no Mac running the whole time, and it can hit Gmail, Telegram, Xero, or any API with managed OAuth rather than wiring up each MCP yourself. Not based on OpenClaw, built from scratch. Won't generate 32-page Latex proposals out of the box though, that's a serious setup you've got.

The self-hosted jank is real. atmita.com goes cloud-native instead (not based on OpenClaw, built from scratch), so there's no pi or mac mini in the loop. Managed OAuth covers the usual apps, and it's API-first so you can wire in anything else directly.

Deterministic scheduled scripts for repeating tasks is where a lot of the value lives, that's basically what Atmita is built around. You describe the job in plain English, pick when it runs, and it runs on a schedule. Cloud-hosted with managed OAuth to the apps you already use, API-first so you can wire anything else in directly. Not based on OpenClaw, built from scratch.

The broken memory and competing permission models really resonate. I built something called Atmita (atmita.com) specifically because fixing OpenClaw felt like the wrong approach. Cloud-native, not based on OpenClaw at all, with managed OAuth so you're not handing raw credentials to an agent. Not a big tech player by any means, but it is the \"just make it a product\" thing you're describing.

The moat is the whole package working together, not any single piece. That's what I've been finding building this (atmita.com). Cloud-native from scratch (not based on OpenClaw), so there's zero setup. It can hit any API directly, falls back to 1000+ managed integrations, and uses a browser when nothing else works. Memory is dynamic and adapts to whatever the task needs, and no user has complained about it breaking.

The confidence calibration point is spot on. We solve this in Atmita (atmita.com) with three explicit modes per agent: full autonomy, self-judging when to pause, or everything staged for human review. Lets you tune trust per agent instead of applying one policy across the board. It's cloud-native, not built on OpenClaw, with an API to control everything and 1000+ integrations out of the box.

That's why you don't let agents act unsupervised. I built atmita.com with an approval layer where every action gets reviewed before it executes. Doesn't solve hallucinations, but it contains them.

I built Atmita (atmita.com) from scratch, not based on OpenClaw. Memory is distributed across agents and automations, each with their own layer, and they interleave intelligently so agents only load what's relevant instead of dumping everything into one context. Cloud-native, no self-hosting required.

The missing piece isn't smarter models, it's making them usable for normal people. OpenClaw proved there's massive demand for AI agents but the setup and maintenance is brutal. We built Atmita (https://atmita.com) from scratch, not based on OpenClaw, cloud-native so there's nothing to install. It can hit any REST API directly, integrates with 800+ services out of the box, has a built-in browser, runs scheduled tasks in the background, and has built-in approval controls. All through a chat interface anyone can use.

Yeah 166M tokens on heartbeat alone is wild. Hard to justify that on pay-as-you-go.

MCP helps but you still need someone to set up the servers and manage credentials. I've been building Atmita (atmita.com) to close that gap, it handles all the OAuth and app connections in the cloud so users just describe what they want automated. Works well for things like daily briefings, email management, and social media scheduling.