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Generally one or two contributors are breaking their balls doing all the work and due to a schooling created desire to inpress others are just being taken advantage of.
Then thousands of freeloaders and cheerleaders riding on their back who are not even willing to donate $2 to the project demand more and more shit
Eventually the contributors eventually burning out and seeing how stupid the entire thing is (I.e no longer caring what these people say or think of the project) and the project suddenly gets abandoned
Two dudes creating something from a place of ego satisfaction and thousands of cheerleaders taking advantage of them is not a community
You are putting forward the argument that it is a problem we are currently omnivores at the moment and we shouldn’t be eating meat due to environmental concerns.
That it would be better if we all became vegans so that higher quantities of food could be produced overall. You think this is the solution.
The problem with going to an extreme position like you have done is that people will overall get sick from an unnatural diet.
We see that with the thousands of people on Reddit who have cured their “incurable auto immune” diseases by going carnivore and not ingesting any plants. After previously eating too much plants and damaging their intestinal lining resulting in natural plant toxins created by plants to stop insects eating them , pesticides , fungicides, herbicides , glysophate etc leaking from the gut into their blood causing the cykotine response by the immune system and a build up of these toxins around the body (joints mostly with specifically it being the knees for rheumatoid arthritis and such).
Meat is clean of toxins as like in our own body , the animals bodies keep the blood clean of it , any toxins in the blood would cause the animal itself to get sick. This is not the case at all regarding plants which are full of an assortment of toxins.
Net zero is not satanic enough?
It is odd that you are so hellbent on finding additional problems and moving the goalposts on this. When billions of people in the world are starving.
Seaweed is one of the the easiest and fastest growing organisms in the world and there have been many threads here pushing for it to even be used as food for humans.
When we post solutions to their problems to areas of a well rounded discussion, they enter into a backs against the wall mindset , posting paragraphs and paragraphs back to us with any wacky counter arguments and not picking of the solution they can think of.
In this thread it was “we don’t have enough seaweed” and then they went trawling the internet for opinion pieces to try and back themselves up and reply within minutes.
A person with good intentions and who was genuinely interested in solving the problem would take more time and research papers that support and go against the solution and make a more balanced response to the good news they were given.
There are billions of people starving in this world. The parent comment is correct to question the motives of these people. I get the impression these people are dressing up satanism or communism as green policies. The same smell we all get when people push absurb woke policies.
I say that only as it seems you have added paragraphs in all of your previous comments to retroactively protect yourself from points I later raised in my replies and you also seem to have deleted your paragraph that enough seaweed was not being produced and so you believe the problem is not solved.
Seaweed production is in line with current demand. When the market places enough pressure on Farmers to adopt the solution then seaweed production will naturally increase. Seaweed is one of the easiest and fastest growing organisms in the world.
Your most recent arguments regarding Marketing etc being a problem. You are scraping the barrel now looking for problems.
Do not worry.
When enough pressure is applied on the farmers thanks to people like you , the solution (seaweed) we have found will be implemented. We have already done the difficult part and found a solution to the problem.
Only a small part of the animals feed needs to be seaweed and thankfully it is one of the easiest and fastest growing organisms on the planet. So it’s extremely cheap for the industry to adopt compared to losses related to carbon taxes and loss of market share.
Only a small part of the animals feed needs to be seaweed and thankfully it is one of the easiest and fastest growing organisms on the planet. So it’s extremely cheap for the industry to adopt the solution when compared to facing losses related to carbon taxes and loss of market share.
I believe you don’t think through anything you say if you can say something as foolish as that.
Companies already do not go beyond the standard required by the FDA when they were use sugar derived from wheat in their products.
This “sugar” makes people who are very sensitive to gluten very ill and uncertain as to what foods are genuinely safe.
The FDA do not require companies to put labels on the food stating it’s derived from wheat. They don’t have to label the food as containing wheat or gluten.
Yet the food for example sweets where 80% of its composition may come directly from sugar “derived from” (and so is) wheat basically and contaminated are just labelled as containing sugar.
I don’t think any gluten intolerant person wants to be chewing on mouthfuls of partial wheat or have all of their foods wrapped in similar materials
The FDA will gaslight them and hand wave it a away saying that they can’t reliably test levels below a certain threshold and they’re being selfish as micro plastics are harming the 99.9% (which is bs)
Talking about wrapping all food in our society using a product derived from an allergen like this is going to cause trauma and worry for those with serious allergies
What should we discuss next, nut plastic ?
If it was nuts and it only contains 50 bits of nuts per million grams ? And this makes sick only a few thousand people with the most sensitive nut allergy it’s ok to talk about doing it ?
No. This idea is so stupid and upsetting to many it should be binned immediately.
It will open the door to cross contamination of every food in our society with gluten.
As we have seen with sugar derived from wheat making many coeliacs sick , it is impossible to safely separate individual molecules from what or barley.
Barley plastic is a bad idea. It is impossible to produce such a product in a protective atmosphere and eliminate cross contamination concerns regarding gluten.
Products containing Sugar derived from Wheat do not have “contains gluten” on their packaging because it’s below a threshold but it still makes people with a serious gluten allergy very ill.
Barley plastic is a bad idea. It is dangerous. It is impossible to produce such a product in a protective atmosphere and eliminate cross contamination concerns.
It is NOT ACCEPTABLE to talk about wrapping all food in our society with a material created from wheat, barley, nuts or any other allergin. FULL STOP.
They already do this in many sweets by using sugar from wheat because it’s cheaper to produce but it makes many people with gluten allergy extremely ill.
They separate out the sugar but it’s contaminated.
A single molecule of gluten or nuts from cross contamination can make people with these allergies very ill.
Wrapping all food in our society with this stuff will lead to great suffering and danger for many. At least initially until the problem is acknowledged and fixed like in the cases of asbestos, tobacco etc
Totally ignoring the rights to safety people with severe gluten and nut allergies have.
We won’t tolerate this. We won’t stand for it.
People with life threatening allergies and potential to get injuries (crohns) will not allow this to become standard practice
Most labelled gluten free food is not gluten free. Its just under a specific threshold. It still makes many people very ill if they eat it.