apaulsmith

The Credit trading technology teams at Citi (London & New York) are using Clojure.

EDIT: fixed spelling.

The amount you can capture value in a 'big company' depends a lot on the industry you are in.

If you are in the right niche, say finance then A.N Other Big Bank will pay 1,000 to 1,200 USD per day for good programmers and more like 1,200 to 1,500 USD per day for excellent programmers.

Now if you are capturing 300K USD per year for your programming skills jumping into a start-up looks like a significantly higher risk proposition than at 80K USD per year.

This is a point that I kind of feel is missed a lot on HN. One of the reasons you see less start-ups in NYC, LDN, etc is simply because it's too easy to make good enough money that the hunger simply doesn't exist.

That's from the film Lock Stock & Two Smoking Barrels; http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120735/quotes?qt0344512

Not sure if it was original when included in the script or not.

Working in finance the definition of FU money isn't when you can retire, but when you get to say FU before you hang-up the phone and not afterwards.

Nicholas Taleb has a similar explanation in one of his books (probably Black Swan).