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Re:Getting free of toxic tech culture on Friday January 19, 2018 @05:06AM (#16185192)
Would you please stop accusing me of that?

I can't make a fucking comment without you up my fucking ass about it. I was illustrating the point that I think the standard proposed is not a good hard rule.

The moderation here has become truly ridiculous.

Re:Getting free of toxic tech culture on Thursday January 18, 2018 @09:18PM (#16183616)
So what, you're going to punish someone who mentions they saw the shape of water last night and it was really good?

That seems rather ridiculous.

Or how about, I'm trying to learn rust and it's pretty neat but also pretty hard. I don't use rust at work. Is that work related enough since it's tech?

If I walk up to a coworker and say "You idiot, this damn bug is ridiculous" am I not responsible for them getting upset at that?

Re:Getting free of toxic tech culture on Thursday January 18, 2018 @09:11PM (#16183581)
> If any non-zero subset of reasonable people are so offended by a behavior that they'd leave the industry because of it, we have to cut it out.

But reasonable people were offended by Brandon Eich donating to an anti-gay marriage proposition, and other reasonable people were offended that he got ousted from Mozilla.

Some people are offended by Damore and been quite vicious towards him, others are saying he's right about things (including you pretty much can't be a conservative in Silicon Valley).

Isn't reality more complex than this idea? Its easy enough to say "don't comment on a coworkers physical appearance" or something equally stupid, but "any non-zero subset" offended by any particular behavior doesn't seem reasonable.

Re:Getting free of toxic tech culture on Thursday January 18, 2018 @09:04PM (#16183540)
> especially the ones that you have been planning to read but never got around to

So um, all of them.

I do try to do stuff unrelated to work. I actually love this stuff though, so other stuff can feel like a chore. Especialyl stuff that takes a lot of investment (e.g. getting good enough at an instrument for it to be fun).

Re:Getting free of toxic tech culture on Thursday January 18, 2018 @08:59PM (#16183515)
> Early on, Valerie realized that she unconsciously thought of literally every single job other than software engineer as “for people who weren’t good enough to be a software engineer” – and that she thought this because other software engineers had been telling her that for her entire career.

Just want to add that the "lets teach everyone to be programmers" idea that constantly gets paraded around is just another form of this. Not everyone waants to do it, not everyone is capable of doing it, and not everyone needs to do it. It comes from a place of wanting to help people, but it's still "in tech vs not in tech".