anonymousobvi

Musk explicitly promised L5 since 2016. This is the first honest statement Tesla has made about “FSD” (actually less-than-half self-driving).

When asked about a cross-country autonomous trip; “[by 2017] all you will need to do is get in and tell your car where to go. If you don’t say anything, the car will look at your calendar and take you there as the assumed destination or just home if nothing is on the calendar.” [1]

He explicitly promised L5 by end of 2020:

“I am still confident we will have the basic functionality for level 5 complete by this year“ [2]

He’s a conman, and the cult of personality is going to end like any other cult.

[1] https://www.inverse.com/article/37652-tesla-self-driving-car... [2] https://mobile.twitter.com/Benshooter/status/133387343433455...

They definitely look cool, I just wish they worked. Worst reliability in the industry.

https://www.motorbiscuit.com/teslas-reliability-ratings-are-...

I think the issue here is that Musk has promised L5 “within a year” since 2016. This is their first honest communication regarding FSD.

2016: https://elonmusk.today/#autonomous-cross-country-trip

2020, explicitly mentioning L5: https://mobile.twitter.com/Benshooter/status/133387343433455...

I’m surprised every time I see anyone believe any claims made by Elon Musk at this point. He’s an excellent marketer with a clear business strategy - promise an exciting new technology (“Level 5 by 2018” [1], “wait actually 2021” [2]), take money for “pre-orders”. No need to deliver. Same idea with the 1 million robotaxis and a roadster by 2020, and the Cybertruck by 2021 [1]. I’m just surprised so few people have caught on. Maybe CEO of one of the largest tech companies in the world really is just “bad at estimating”, but if it’s a marketing/fundraising technique, it seems to be working. Not for the customers of course. Bummer for everyone who pre-ordered fairy dust.

[1] https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.roadandtrack.com/news/amp35... [2] https://mobile.twitter.com/Benshooter/status/133387343433455...

Funny that all the anti-Apple news stories (re unfair regulation of its marketplace) started popping up right after they signaled to FB “no more tracking” (via regulation of its marketplace). I don’t think I’d seen a single story criticizing Apple on moral grounds before this.

I use Google's products because I have to. The alternative is spending huge chunks of my time to "work around" Google. Same goes for Facebook, except there is no work-around.

This does not mean I support either company, it just means they have manipulated culture to ensure they are the only choice.

> Unions, people.

Yes. If Google knew, say, 25% of its highly-skilled engineering workforce would strike in the face of unethical business practices, Google would not engage in unethical business practices. Tech companies are assholes because we allow them to be.

There are also companies who happen to make money doing something more-or-less good - for example life-saving medical devices, and even a company like Roland, which makes music equipment. I think those things contribute to a meaningful life, and are a good place to land if you're jumping ship.