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Is Ayn Rand an exceptional person produced by the Soviet Union just because she was born there or produced by America because she was able to write what she wanted once she moved here (she wouldn't have made it in the USSR, that's for sure)?
Is Peter Thiel an exceptional person produced by Germany just because he was born there or produced by America because he got all his education here?
Perhaps this is nonsensical to me because I have a peculiar background. My father is Spanish while his dad was Russian and his mother was Italian. My mom is Colombian while his father was a first generation Colombian whose family had migrated to Colombia from Syria and her mother was a tzabar (born on a kibbutz) who migrated to Argentina (and eventually became a citizen).
Where was me and my family exceptionalism _produced_? It's hard to say. the truth lies in nuance.
Ayn Rand was a Russian-born American. Mila Kunis is a Ukranian-born American. Natalie Portman is an Israeli-born American. Elon Musk is a South African-born American, and so are his siblings. Sofia Vergara is a Colombian-born American, so is Wilmer Valderrama "Fez" from That '70s show. Justin Bieber is a Canadian-born American. The Sprouse twins are Italian-born Americans. Arnold Schwarzenegger is an Austrian-born American.
The same way that say, Boris Johnson (Prime Minister of the United Kingdom) is an American-born British, except that outside the US people don't pay as much attention to this silly thing.
What's your point?