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Re:Supporting Israel’s “start-up nation” on Monday December 10, 2012 @06:19PM (#4902173)
You were not born in the land called Israel/Palestine, you were able to move there because of a supremacist regime that won't give the same rights to the natives just because of their race/creed/color. You US-born Jew have more rights than Jaffa-born Palestinian Christians or Isdud-born Muslims who were kicked out before Isdud was renamed to Ashdod yet you ask me why I call you a settler.

Mizrahim / Eastern Jews and Black African Jews were also treated as Guinea Pigs by the European Jews; they gave the children thousands of times more powerful x-rays than allowed amount, several died instantly, many have died of cancer.

Are you capable of rational thought? Are you talking about the settler state Israel which doesn't give equal rights to the natives yet allows Americans and Russians to move there based on their mother's religion or some other fictional country? A regime which has a separate set of laws for two groups based on their race, color or creed is referred to as an apartheid regime.

59% of Israelis approve of the term apartheid and support the discriminatory policies of their country:

http://972mag.com/poll-israelis-support-discrimination-again...

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2012/10/20121027145...

Re:Supporting Israel’s “start-up nation” on Monday December 10, 2012 @05:40PM (#4901918)
So the American and Belgian and Russian Jews will not give equal rights to the Palestinians and you won't even give them a state on the tiny 18-20% of their original land. That is precisely what my problem is with the Israeli apartheid regime and it should be the problem of any half decent human being to stop the apartheid.

in case you had not realised, this will not last. The US (and its client states such as Canada and some tiny Pacific islands) cannot keep your status as superior and keep giving you shielding despite bombings, home demolitions and new Jewish-only settlements. Either you have to give at least nominally equal rights to Palestinians or you have to prepare for the Algerian solution (French settlers had to pack up and leave). Until that, your apartheid state should be boycotted monetarily, diplomatically and culturally.

Re:Supporting Israel’s “start-up nation” on Monday December 10, 2012 @04:27PM (#4901601)
What is your point? You want to have your apartheid and eat it too and no one should dare call it what it is? Do you support the rights of the Jaffa-born and Haifa-born and Deir Yaseen-born Palestinians to return to their land and have at least the rights a US-born settler has? Currently the wing nuts of Israel (I.e. the rightist as well as leftists) are not willing to give those rights and neither is the wide majority of Israeli Jews. Until they are forced to give equal rights they should be boycotted and you should stand for the boycott, not against.

Germany had to end the occupation of France and the rights of French were not that of second class citizens when they did all the nice cooperative things you mentioned.

Re:Supporting Israel’s “start-up nation” on Monday December 10, 2012 @04:07PM (#4901493)
If you are allergic to facts then I apologise for offering you something other than koolaid.

If you are more enlightened and you feel that I am the one who is ignorant I will appreciate it when you correct me.

However, if you only attack my personality rather than countering what I said then I would assume that I didn't say anything wrong.

Re:Supporting Israel’s “start-up nation” on Monday December 10, 2012 @02:09PM (#4900920)
What Chutzpah you've got, born in US has the right to be a citizen of the settler state but natives cannot return and you want us all to support your Judeo-supremacist terrorist state?

Take your hasbara somewhere else. Saudi, China etc are not settler states which deny equal rights to their people of certain race or ethnicity or religion, and they don't get $3 billion in aid from US for 7 million people of a preferred race only. Israeli apartheid regime gets more aid than sub-Saharan Africa and entire Latin America combined. Saudi, China etc haven't violated dozens or UN resolutions and don't get US diplomatic shielding for their war crimes. They are criticised for their brutal actions and so should Israeli terror be criticised. Stop demanding special treatment for your settler state. You can talk when you give equal rights to Palestinians, when you give the natives the right to return, at least the same rights as a US-born settler, if not more because they are the rightful owners of their land.

Re:Supporting Israel’s “start-up nation” on Monday December 10, 2012 @01:00PM (#4900504)
When the Israeli terrorists stop murdering women and children and ordinary civilians we can stop flame wars against them. Until then if you stay silent at the injustice, you are siding with the oppressor. That's from Desmond Tutu who fought South African apartheid. Guess what he's got to say about Israeli regime? He said it's worse than what they faced; there were no white-only roads in South Africa and they weren't bombing blacks with F-16s and Gunship helicopters like Israelis are.
Re:Supporting Israel’s “start-up nation” on Monday December 10, 2012 @12:13PM (#4900176)
I see the Hasbara police is here too (US-taxpayer funded Israeli government-paid propagandists who troll the internet to explain why they kill women and children and why they don't give equal rights to Palestinians and why they continue to occupy the 22% of the remaining land of original Palestine).

What is a good place for this new startup? Maybe Al-Arakib which is a Palestinian Bedouin village where peopel have been living for hundreds of years and have deeds from Ottoman era but the settler startup nation keeps demolishing their homes? http://mondoweiss.net/2012/06/al-araqib-demolished-for-the-3...

http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/israeli-stu...

Re:Supporting Israel’s “start-up nation” on Monday December 10, 2012 @11:34AM (#4899815)
And yes, the majority of Israelis recognise that the Palestinian citizens of Israel are treated as second class citizens and yes the majority approves of it. The majority of Palestinians are of course in exile since 1948 and more since 1967 (and are in much worse situation such as the refugees who have been living in Gaza) but this poll is about those who survived the European Jewish terrorism in 1948 and ended up as Israeli citizens.

http://972mag.com/poll-israelis-support-discrimination-again... (edit: linkify)

Re:Supporting Israel’s “start-up nation” on Monday December 10, 2012 @11:19AM (#4899717)
This is ridiculous pink washing of war crimes, apartheid, murder and terror perpetrated by a colonial settler state which is the last such project in which the natives are still not allowed to return to their homes from which European settlers kicked them out in 1948. The population of Palestine was only 3% Jewish in 1905, and the UN plan gave them 55% of land in 1947 (Jewish population still 33% of total population) but the Zionist murderers wanted more. The terrorists massacred hundreds of natives in massacres like Deir Yaseen and drove out 80% of the native population and occupied 78% of the land which is called "Israel" since 1948. The natives have the right to return but he murderers won't let them return even though Australian, Russian, American Jews have the right to "return" even without any link to this land, its culture, or its language in the past 1000+ years.

Let's promote the start up culture of these settlers who continue to occupy the remaining 22% land since 1967 and built Jewish-only settlements on the land stolen every day. Let's kick out the natives, kill them in the concentration camp (Gaza) and build a new startup on their land!

First they came for the Muslims...

Is it too late to fight for the rights of the average Joe / Jane who might be white / European (i.e. "real American" in the eyes of the mainstream)?

It's all correlated, you can't advocate torture, bombings, drones, wiretapping, deportations for being here illegally (say, Latinos or Asians who who moved here a little after the Anglo-Saxons got done killing almost all the original Americans) for certain groups and then demand justice for some others.

Only 55 points and 8 comments... Imagine the uproar here if a Jewish charity was being wiretapped; the media would be throwing in Holocaust, Antisemtism, Hitler, Nazis and all the history of Jewish persecution and the good Samaritans here at HN would have been up in arms. Some Muslim charity was torpedoed and brown/Muslimy citizens wiretapped? Who gives a shit, let's post another link about an awesome new startup that Israelis built on the newest stolen land while the brown Palestinian (doesn't matter whether Christian or Muslim or Druze) is being kicked out of his home that his family owned for several generations so that some Australian or Russian born folks of the "Chosen Race" can live there.

And while we are at it let's continue to cut social services at home as we hand over another 3 billion to Israeli apartheid and a few billion to Egyptian Yemeni and Saudi butchers so that they can continue suppressing the people that don't belong to the chosen race.

I read about that but I haven't read the details yet. I hope some pretense of justice prevails.
A couple of more examples, Jewish and Christian and other European white American students have protested at speeches of Israeli murderers (or speeches of folks that they don't agree with) and they have never been convicted for that, a group of 11 Muslim students was convicted for interrupting Israeli Ambassador Oren at UC Irvine last year, i.e. for doing what countless protesters have done before without conviction.

This article is written by those who interrupted the big terrorist (Prime Minister) Netanyahu's speech and didn't get any punishment for that:

http://mondoweiss.net/2011/10/irvine-11-conviction-reveals-d...

Jewish Voice for Peace statement on the Irvine 11 conviction:

http://jewishvoiceforpeace.org/blog/jvp-statement-on-irvine-...

"This is a shameful day for the legal system and the Jewish communal leaders who actively supported this unfair railroading of young Muslim students and unprecedented attack on everyone's right to free speech. How can it be that the Israeli ambassador enjoys more rights in the United States than do young Muslim citizens?"

More about the anti-Muslim racism coming home to roost:

http://mondoweiss.net/2011/12/from-occupation-to-occupy-the-...

(edit: added JVP link)

PS: Did we all forget that the US military mass-murderers and Black Water / Xe / Academy mercenaries who went on killing sprees in Iraq and Afghanistan are all roaming free except maybe one guy who got a slap on the wrist (6 months?) for killing innocent men and children? Compare that to 12 years for uploading a video. Is there any doubt that there are separate laws (or separate application of laws) for Muslims?

There are several examples in the article I quoted. I can google up tons of others.

Various Christian terrorists are let go without any qualms while several Muslims have been rotting in jails without any trial or charges, or even worse, after the courts determined that there is nothing against them.

Hutaree Milita's (Christian terrorists) were all released even though they had plans to kill government / law enforcement officials.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutaree#Michigan_Militia_and_th...

The United States Attorney's Office stated that the Hutaree allegedly planned "to kill an unidentified member of local law enforcement and then attack the law enforcement officers who gather in Michigan for the funeral".[14][15] The press release further stated that nine had been indicted by a federal grand jury in Detroit on charges of seditious conspiracy, attempted use of weapons of mass destruction, teaching the use of explosive materials, and possessing a firearm during a crime of violence. The indictment said that the Hutaree planned to attack law enforcement vehicles during the funeral procession for the officer or officers they planned to kill, using explosively formed penetrator improvised explosive devices (which under federal law are considered "weapons of mass destruction").[15]

Compare that to the various cases in which Muslim Americans were convicted and sentenced for tens of years because of their thoughts or their writings or for uploading a video on youtube. None of that is exaggerated, really a kid was arrested for uploading a video and was facing decades in prison.

Tarek Mehanna - no violence, no crime committed except thought crimes. Sentenced for 17 years.

http://www.salon.com/2012/04/13/the_real_criminals_in_the_ta...

A pre-teen (or teen?) Canadian kid was abducted from Afghanistan and he was put in Guantanamo. If he had pleaded not guilty he would have had got a much longer sentence so he pleaded guilty. He was not on US soil when he allegedly committed that crime (if it was a crime).

http://www.google.com/search?q=omar+khadr

His chief interrogator was Joshua Claus, who later pleaded guilty to abusing detainees to extract confessions following the in-custody death of wrongly accused Dilawar that same year.[81]

Jubair Ahmad, sentenced for uploading a youtube video and exchanging Youtube messages with a relative of a terrorist organization. The uploading of video is "material support" in the eyes of the system when the guy is a Muslim.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/364387/us-court-hands-12-year-se...

When Hutaree militia was being given material support (military gear, cameras, guns) which appears to be more than youtube video and involved actual weapons of mass destruction, they were all released.

It is a shame. The US justice system is not even pretending to provide justice. If the president can bomb and kill random people 8000 miles away without any trial (or even charging them with a crime, if any), surely he can wiretap innocent Americans at home because of their color/creed/origin. The constitution can go to hell.

The Bushes and Obamas and Clintons will take turns to continue the mass-murders abroad and mass-violations of privacy at home (or even illegal abduction and torture of American citizens as long as they have a Muslimy name). Meanwhile there will be some musical chair shows to give the public the "choice" between one mass-murderer and another.

http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/03/30/liberty-and-j...

Liberty and Justice for Non-Muslims

By ANDREW ROSENTHAL

Since the attacks on Sept. 11, 2001, genuine concerns about national security as well as politicking and fear have led to a shift in the balance between civil liberties and law enforcement. That much is indisputable, and widely discussed. Yet it’s rarely acknowledged that the attacks have also led to what’s essentially a separate justice system for Muslims.

In this system, the principle of due process is twisted and selectively applied, if it is applied at all.

Re:Crowdsourced photos coming from Aleppo, Syria. on Tuesday July 31, 2012 @01:26PM (#4318514)
I cannot access the link right now but many of the stories trumpeted by Western and Saudi-backed media highlighting Syrian regime's brutality have turned out to be fake (or worse, some massacres blamed on regime were actually carried out by CIA-sponsored armed Syrian "rebels").

So US-sponsored Israeli terrorists bombing Palestinian women and children will also make it to hacker news top page? Syria's tyrant is not a US-sponsored one so we must highlight his brutality?

How about US-sponsored Egyptian, Yemeni, Bahraini and other butchers? I don't remember seeing anything about their misery making it to the first page of Hacker News.

Jul 24, 2012 German intelligence: al-Qaeda all over Syria By John Rosenthal

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/NG24Ak02.html

Caught: Staged CNN Syria Interviews Faked By Activist Danny

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lWB5ssifTg

CNN BUSTED!!! AGAIN more Fake videos from the Libya, Syria conflict

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1v5eQLCj_s

06/19/2012 Eyewitnesses Contradict Houla Massacre Claims

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/eyewitnesses-contr...

Prime German Paper: Syrian Rebels Committed Houla Massacre

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2012/06/prime-german-paper-syri...

The prime German daily, the center-right Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, has a new report (in German) about the Houla massacre. The author is Rainer Hermann who studied and speaks Arabic, Turkish and Farsi. Hermann also has a PhD in economics and wrote his thesis about the modern Syrian social history. He currently lives in Abu Dhabi and has been reporting from the Middle East for over 22 years.

If you can't see the hypocrisy of the media then please ignore my post and move on. Is it a bigger crime to kill civilians or to kill soldiers? Is James the dozen-civilian-killer a terrorist or not? Media calls him a "suspect", why was the Fort Hood shooter not called a suspect while he was being investigated? Can't you see the pattern that if the murderers is a European / white American he is a "suspect" and if it's a brown American (like the Fort Hood killer) he is a "terrorist". Did you see the sympathetic posts about the person who went on a killing spree in Afghanistan? The poor guy had issues so we wanna consider that rather than call him a terrorist, how about the brown guys killing civilians, maybe they had issues? Maybe they had trauma from their folks being murdered or tortured? I am not justifying any crimes, I am only highlight how the media is justifying some crimes and calling other perpetrators terrorist from the get go.

>Obama trying to kill a terrorist and then accidentally killing civilians is not terrorism.

>It all comes down to intent, no?

Oh yeah, when we bomb wedding parties out intent is good, when they killed civilians their intent was bad, that was simple, now I get it.

https://www.google.com/search?q=afghanistan+wedding+bombed

Clinton knowingly bombed Sudan pharmaceuticals factory (I have posted the link somewhere on this page) and killed half million infants by sanctions alone (1996 UN estimate of the period 1991-1996), Bush knowingly went to Iraq when there was no link to any attack on US, Obama went into Libya for no good reason (oil contracts), Obama has killed hundreds of civilians in Yemen, Somalia, Pakistan and Afghanistan with unmanned drone attacks and his latest piece of art is to label all adult males present in the site where he wanted to bomb as "militants".

That's neat of Pres Obombya, Americans own the whole world; the Afghans, Somalis, Yemenis, Pakistanis just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, so they are all terrorists. Let's kill them and call them militants unless proven otherwise (just imagine Osama using the same logic, oh there were bad guys in those buildings, the intent was to kill only those who were bombing Iraq).

http://www.juancole.com/2012/05/how-obama-changed-definition...

And you completed ignored my point that:

when an American (white Christiany) kills innocent CIVILIANS (whether American civilians in Colorado or Iraqi or Afghan civilians) he is not called a terrorist

but when an American (brown, Muslimy) kills SOLDIERS he is called a terrorist.

What is terrorism? Killing soldiers (who are trained to kill people) or killing civilians (who did not sign up for any murder and terror)?

Or is terrorism the act when non-white folks (Americans or otherwise) or non-Christians or non-Americans kill anyone? Apparently it's not called terrorism when Bush kills 1 million people or Obama kills Afghan women and children who are celebrating at weddings.

>There is a view that the US actions are unfair and unjust. >The delivery method is not terrorism but the end result is indistinguishable in terms of justness or fairness. For example, torturing a man not found guilty of any crimes.

How is the delivery method not terrorism? If a guy named Muhammad kills 12 ordinary civilians he is a terrorist but if a guy named Andy/Joe/Steve kills 12 / 112 people in Iraq / Afghanistan by going on a shooting spree / dropping a bomb on a civilian home / aspirin factory / wedding and its not terrorism? There was a Muslimy-named guy who killed American soldiers (not civilians) at Fort Hood and he was labelled a terrorist. The guy named James who has killed 12 civilians is not a terrorist, he is a "suspect".

1998 Clinton knowingly bombed the aspirin factory that provided cheap medicines to millions of Africans:

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/chatterbox/2...

Edit:

http://www.democracynow.org/2006/7/28/national_exclusive_hez...

<BEGIN QUOTE> In 1985, when I was the Deputy Director of the Reagan White House Task Force on Terrorism, they asked us—this is a Cabinet Task Force on Terrorism; I was the Deputy Director of the working group—they asked us to come up with a definition of terrorism that could be used throughout the government. We produced about six, and each and every case, they were rejected, because careful reading would indicate that our own country had been involved in some of those activities.

After the task force concluded its work, Congress got into it, and you can google into U.S. Code Title 18, Section 2331, and read the U.S. definition of terrorism. And one of them in here says—one of the terms, "international terrorism," means "activities that," I quote, "appear to be intended to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination or kidnapping."

Yes, well, certainly, you can think of a number of countries that have been involved in such activities. Ours is one of them. Israel is another. And so, the terrorist, of course, is in the eye of the beholder.

<END QUOTE>

Mosaddegh wanted to nationalize oil, are you telling us that BP (then APOC), the UK, the US were all happy about it and the Iranian public was furious to see the oil money coming back to their country?

What about the coups and assassinations in several dozen other countries? Chile 9/11/1973, Brazil 1964, Guatemala 1954, Venezuela 1992+2002, Haiti 1991+2004 (Aristide was forced to board a US military plane that took him into exile), Congo coup 1960 and Patrice Lumumba's assassination 1961?

https://www.google.com/search?q=patrice+lumumba+assassinatio...

https://www.google.com/search?q=list+of+cia+interventions+si...

If a dozen Americans killed by a whacko deserves to be on hacker news, the mass murder of Afghans and Iraqis also deserves to be mentioned. There have been no minutes of silence for the million+ Iraqis and Afghans, no American media outlet has run hours long stories about the victims, the survivors or their families.
Are you a real human being or a brain-dead bot...? So it is good when CIA goes and kills anyone thousands of miles away (whether you call them civilians or you consider them guilty by default), you're just not sympathetic with those people who are victims of CIA...? Aren't you associating yourself to terrorism (i.e. killing innocent civilians) even if you are not committing the acts yourself?

Was a good thing that CIA installed brutal dictators after toppling the governments of dozens of elected leaders around the world from Chile and Brazil, Cuba and Guatemala and Iran to Indonesia?

https://www.google.com/search?q=cia+interventions+since+1945

Is it terrorism when a guy named James kills a dozen Americans and injures 5 dozen? Would he be called a "suspect" or a terrorist if his name happened to be Muhammad?

Is it a good thing when an American soldier kills a dozen Iraqi civilians?

https://www.google.com/webhp?&q=american%20soldier%20ira...

https://www.google.com/search?q=american+soldier+killing+spr...

This 1366 x 768 is worse than what Lenovo offered more than four years ago.

In 2008 Lenovo came out with X300, a 13" 3lb laptop with DVD drive built-in and 1400 x 900 resolution. It was priced about the same as a 13" Macbook Air, it had lesser battery time than MB Air, slightly more weight, but it had optical drive in that weight, replaceable battery and it came with plenty of ports (USB, VGA, LAN).

Too bad they don't make any 13" ones any more (X1 doesn't count, it is not a true Thinkpad). They replaced it with the 14" 4lb T400s (1400 x 900), then T410s (1400 x 900), T420s (1600 x 900) and newly announced T430s. I think many developers would want to get an X330 with i7 and 1600 x 900 at 3lbs.

Downvote and no response?
The cold war didn't kill many Americans, it was mostly about Americans killing Latin Americans or Koreans or Vietnamese or Laotians or Cambodians either directly by napalm or by puppet dictators that were installed after CIA-backed coups, such as the original 9/11: the 9/11/1973 coup against President Allende of Chile (or 1953 Iran or 1954 Guatemala or 1964 Brazil).

The Russians weren't in Cuba for no reason, we were in their backyard before they started their attempts to close the "doomsday gap" (quoting that term from Dr. Strangelove).

Quoting Blum:

Let's also not forget that Eastern Europe became communist because Hitler, with the approval of the West, used it as a highway to reach the Soviet Union to wipe out Bolshevism forever, and that the Russians in World War I and II, lost about 40 million people because the West had used this highway to invade Russia. It should not be surprising that after World War II the Soviet Union was determined to close down the highway.

>Please keep this cancer on reddit. Thank you.

To the troll:aaaaaaaaaaaaaa

What is your point? Did you just sign up another account to leave this useless comment?

Your message doesn't clarify whether you prefer wiretapping of all civilians or just Muslims. Or perhaps you love bombing civilians around the world with your tax dollars? I am not sure what your objection was, I thought I gave plenty of references to prove my point; that it is all linked together and we cannot fight one little battle for privacy separate from the so-called war on terror (or war on communism or war on whatever minority group or whatever "outside" group you would like to hate).

You can't just demand liberty and justice for some, not only because it's hypocritical but because it won't work that way.

I might be wrong but you have to enlighten me with your ideas.

Re:Internet Explorer 6 Countdown on Wednesday July 18, 2012 @08:06PM (#4263676)
Interesting, I did not bother to see the exact RGB values but copying the color box and pasting it near China's map seemed same / similar to the naked eye. I am on Win 7 and I thought there's nothing built-in for that except for the legendary mspaint :)

I just checked in paint and I'm surprised they have a color picker built-in!! MSPaint has finally evolved in Win 7 and I am learning that just now :) (I knew this version has zoom and a couple of other nicer options but OMG I had no idea that even the color picker is included)

Re:Internet Explorer 6 Countdown on Wednesday July 18, 2012 @08:04PM (#4263669)
Yeah, I don't know how they have stats for India, I didn't dig into the sources.
That is great news!

My personal guesstimate is that the general American public is more aware of such dirty things than it was, say, 20 years ago and I think it is due to internet, mainly due to alternative news sources that would get the truth out because the lame-stream media would rather tell you songs about democracy and not tell you about the secrecy and anything bad the government and corporations have been doing.

These wiretappings were probably more focus on black liberation movements and "Commies" a few decades ago, then the focus has been on Muslims now that the US is not supporting Osama bin Laden type in Afghanistan (they are still propping up the regimes in Saudia etc and supporting Osama-types in Libya, Syria etc).

The shameless NYPD spied on entire Muslim community and on ordinary citizens without any probable cause, without any legal authority. Obama's Attorney General Eric Holder lied about it and the Department of (in)justice hasn't done anything to correct it.

http://michaelcostello.blogspot.com/2012/06/wiretap-document...

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/04/shady-companies-nsa...

Shady Companies With Ties to Israel Wiretap the U.S. for the NSA

April 3, 2012

http://mondoweiss.net/2012/07/muslim-civil-rights-groups-boy...

In the wake of the New York Police Department’s spy scandal, a coalition of Muslim groups in New York announced a boycott of the Ramadan conference, which was held this morning. Ramadan, the Islamic holy month, begins later this month.

I say the government and the corporations because it's all part of the same group of people, the Chertoff guy who gave us the porn scanners for TSA used to work for the Homeland Security.

https://www.google.com/search?q=chertoff+scanners

The Summers guy hired by Obama to clean up the mess was the guy who helped create the mess.

There is good money to be made in this dirty business; we must kill them because otherwise X[n] is coming to get us. President Y[m].

we must spy on our people because otherwise X[n] is coming to get us. President Y[m].

Where m and n vary based on the year and X = {Bloody commies, Ruskies, Terrorists, Mozlums}

and Y = {JF Kennedy 1, LB Johnson 2, Jimmy Carter 3, Ronald Reagan 4, Bush I 5, Bill Clinton 6, Bush II, B Obama}

1 Wanted to "win" the Vietnam war rather than allow them to elect Ho Chi Minh (who would have won if elections were held, as Eisenhower himself acknowledged).

2 Continued the same shit in the same and some more countries

3 Helped South Korean dictator (yes, South Korean dictator) kill a few thousand protesters

http://www.villagevoice.com/2002-10-15/news/carter-hounded-b...

4 Helped Saddam kill Iranians with US-supplied killing machines

5 The "I will never apologize for the United States — I don't care what the facts are" President (after killing a few hundred Iranians by shooting a civilian airplane) helped kill Iraqis on the pretext of helping Kuwaitis, remember the incubator babies hoax? https://www.google.com/search?q=incubator+babies+kuwait+hoax

6 Continued bombing Iraq and helped kill at least half a million Iraqi babies https://www.google.com/search?q=Medeline+albright+worth+it

I can see your point but I think it is pretty clear that most of the minority groups are at a disadvantage to start with (Asian and Jewish minority in US are exceptions, their income is higher than average, the proportion of Jewish representation in law schools, for example, is disproportionately higher, perhaps 35% at Harvard, but that's an exceptionally well-accomplished group).

If the parents don't have enough money to feed the kids, the first thing on the mind would not be the next programming language to learn, it would be about the meal for the next afternoon. Compare that kid to someone whose parents are able to afford the education of kids at the top, most expensive business school or law school of the country. They are not competing at an equal level. Unfortunately the average black happens to be much poorer than the average white (although there are more poor whites than the total number of poor blacks but that's because the blacks are about 13% of total, whites are about 72% of the total). [edited]

I don't think anyone in Brazil would have an event "Latina hackathon" but a "Latina hackathon" in US would be understandable.

http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/news/us/study-finds-medi...

Study finds median wealth for single black women at $5

Among the most startling revelations in the wealth data is that while single white women in the prime of their working years (ages 36 to 49) have a median wealth of $42,600 (still only 61 percent of their single white male counterparts), the median wealth for single black women is only $5.

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