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Re:GrapheneOS and Forensic Extraction of Data (2024) on Thursday September 11, 2025 @10:29AM (#45212138)
So you were called out over on Nostr by Final regards the Tor app which you mistakenly took to be integrated when they simply showed the app and it running on the OS, not IN it and decided to come to HN for an anti-Graphene sympathetic ear?

The reply you were called out for, for other people's benefit: It's not bundled. It isn't going to be bundled. This is a post showing a work in progress beta app that most users have not seen before. This app is developed officially by Tor to hopefully replace Orbot, it is informational content.

"GrapheneOS has long been suspicious about the revenue values it receives." GrapheneOS Foundation is a registered Canadian non profit that declares it's accounts and has filed accounts registered against them for this year and last year too. Nothing is suspicious.

From a forensic perspective? You don't provide ANY forensic basis or evidence for anything you claim.

You prefer Chinese devices? Suggesting people use something known to be objectively less secure on a technical level and known to be closely tied to the Chinese government/military and not legally able to refuse their requests is strange. Even if US gov is the only threat you consider, this makes little to no sense. Especially when it has been revealed that forensic analysis firms used by the US LE agencies have revealed that they see GrapheneOS Pixel devices to be the hardest if not impossible to extract especially in BFU state. There is a reason European LE agencies and their media have gone to extra lengths to smear users as criminals due to how stymied they are in extracting data. A job you want to make easier by making ludicrous hypersensationalised claims based solely in the realm of fantasy.

That's like suggesting to Formula 1 World Champion to accept not being at the pinnacle of excellence and despite their talent to voluntarily move to a mid tier team because having a moderately okay car is better than not being in the sport. Same for cycling, tell last years Tour de France winner to stop using that light high end carbon fibre bike and just use that heavy 1960s steel bike instead, they both have wheels and get you from the start to the finish after all. Don't aspire to be more than average or the best. Just settle.