Othan

It's security theater. Friendly plug for Oneleet, who actually talked us out of getting it.

We were considering getting certified, but it only really makes sense if your customers require you to have it.

> If there is more congestion it is because you made some trips that were impossible before possible and so people are better using your city.

No, this means that the trip was made easier by car, not that a trip was impossible and is now possible.

> limiting the things people can do means you are a bad city.

Not building massive freeways everywhere != limiting the things people can do in a city. Building public transit and better cycling infra is a much more effective way to allow people to do more things.

> if you don't believe me explain why there is no congestion west of Jamestown ND - an area where few people live that has a 4 lane freeway which by your logic should have congestion anyway

Yes, in certain circumstances, you can build big enough roads where the capacity is greater than the demand. This does not work in populated areas with high demand. (This is incredibly well studied)