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Ten dollars a month!? Ha ha ha, no.

Are you saying you doubt that the US did this? Seriously? Do you have an alternative theory?

Sorry but humans do not look like that, sternocleidomastoid or no. Even the shadow makes no sense. Cochlear implants are, implanted, not worn over the ears.

There's many many more pictures like this. They're fake people.

You're just splitting hairs. It's the same picture.

He's referring to:

“Darren Byler, an anthropologist at Simon Fraser University who studies repression in Xinjiang, recently uncovered evidence that some Han “relatives” in Uyghur homes had coerced women into such marriages.”

Byler, who is also an American Kissinger Institute fellow. https://www.wilsoncenter.org/person/darren-byler

If it's China news, and it's in the west, it's really good policy to completely disbelieve the claims first and then demand evidence. You won't get any.

Literally every country in the world, including the USA, believes that Taiwan is a part of China. You're extremely uninformed on this matter.

Coverage of these abuses is limited to the west. The USA and its vassal states. I have no idea which your country's media is except they we're both in the west.

I agree with your parroting of the propaganda of repressive regimes, your admission is noted. The USA is the most repressive regime on the planet by any metric.

I see your only response now that your dishonesty has been called out is to try to cast aspersions on the caller, rather than deal with the points of discussion.

Quoting lines out of wikipedia, the most corrupted source of information for anything geoploticial is not a contribution.

Lets examine these lies.

422. The source is CNN, an American propaganda outlet. Its sources are a Mike Pence speech, two broken links and 3 other CNN articles.

423. A website called foreignaffairs.com, which is "dedicated to improving the understanding of U.S. foreign policy" according to its about page.

424, 425. Not even claiming anything unusual. Education is a good thing, it's more effective than the American response of bombing weddings.

433. What on earth could be wrong with this? This is wonderful?

445. Yeah, he's right?

446. Again, this is amazing. America could learn from this.

Isn't America, the country we're supposed to believe here, a literal slave state with slavery embedded in the constitution and literal black people enslaved to pick cotton? Yes it is. And the home of 20% of the world's prison population? Yes it is.

But for some reason there's no wiki pages about this...

Strange, I would have said the opposite. Irish people tend to be opposed to imperialism considering our history of suffering under it.

But I don't defend the Chinese state at all, I just call out western warmongering lies.

I was just out of bed. Morning for me.

>As a photographer, what about these images is obviously fake?

As a rational person, everything about the photos is obviously fake. Take a look at this website: thispersondoesnotexist.com . You can see a new victim of communism each time you refresh the page. It's easy to create such images, but here they didn't make much effort to differentiate them and there's some slamdunk obvious fakes.

>Which is evidence of what? Generally, when booking photos are taken, the subject is asked to look at a single spot to preserve consistency and identifiability.

I'm starting to think you're being dishonest with me and perhaps yourself. This is a silly reason to claim that eyes would be at the same pitch, and besides, the people having exactly the same clothes in the same places? Multiple people?

This one has to be my favourite: https://www.xinjiangpolicefiles.org/wp-content/uploads/dt_im...

This one is where the AI doesn't know human anatomy and the head doesn't connect to the body correctly:

https://www.xinjiangpolicefiles.org/wp-content/uploads/dt_im...

Here's one where it couldn't decide if the glasses existed or not:

https://www.xinjiangpolicefiles.org/wp-content/uploads/dt_im...

I know it's hard to face up to the shattering of the illusion of BBC impartiality (and all of western media in general) and especially the scale of the lies being pushed at you, but you need to be able to do this as a grown adult in 2022. You can't even claim that the BBC have been fooled, they are overtly and openly using Adrian Zenz as a source. Talk about "sketchy". It's interesting that you didn't call the BBC's fundamentalist-christian homophobic racist source, "sketchy".

Anti Asian hate crimes have skyrocketed since this propaganda campaign kicked off. Sinophobia is a very real thing, not a "psyop". The propaganda relies on the masses' well cultivated racism in order to propagate. Nobody would believe any of this if it was about a 'respected' country and not some unknowable other on the other side of the planet, that we're meant to believe the US has grave humanitarian concerns about.

>Why are you here on a thread about Iran anyways?

Where should I be? It's Sunday morning, it's raining in Dublin.

You can start by taking the stages and realising and admitting to yourself that you've been had. The propaganda you've just posted is all fake. These images are all fake, and obviously so. All the eyes are at an identical pitch, when you go to the source you'll find many of them wearing exactly the same clothes, with exactly the same creases. Here's more debunking this fake "hack"

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1529035481203154945.html

It just has to be good enough to get a headline in the news, it never stands up to scrutiny and people need a lot of courage to admit to themselves that reputed mainstream news outlets are lying to them constantly.

I posted a long response to this which seems to have been censored, probably because of hyperlinks to forbidden sites? I'll post it again without the links:

This has been one of the more absurd mainstream conspiracy theories pushed in living memory. The ridiculous claims of millions in prison and people being taken off the street to be tortured in vans for reasons nobody can even be bothered to invent a reason for. This is classic atrocity propaganda. The region has been visited by numbers of organisations who all find everything to be fine, yet the EU refuses to visit, when the UN visited and found everything above board, the High Commissioner was forced to resign.

>Multiple news organizations have published high quality satellite photos of the Chinese concentration camps for ethnic minorities and Muslims

All that has been published has been repeatedly debunked. Photographs are faked or of completely different parts of China. Fake witness testimony is laughed at even on extreme sinophobic websites like reddit, like when Rushan Abbas did an AMA on there. She claims to be an Uyghur activist and that many of her friends were locked up in the concentration camps. So what is the big news? She failed to mention her association with NED, a literal branch of CIA, and her participation in the human rights abuse in Guantanamo Bay in 2003, an _actual_ verifiable human rights atrocity.

>interviewed both victims and former jailers who have fled the country.

These are fakes. For an apparent genocide of millions of people, something claimed by a man, Adrian Zenz, who's been sent by God on a mission to rid the world of homosexuals and communists, nobody has ever been able to find a single credible refugee. Zenz is funded by the CIA.

The BBC even publishes obvious deepfakes of "victims" sourced from Zenz. See "The faces from China’s Uyghur detention camps". All of these pictures are fake images, created with such tech as thispersondoesnotexist dot com .

>Chinese officials on record boast about the 100s of thousands they have imprisoned or send to prison like factories across the country and the children they have separated from their parents for "re-education".

This is not true. Nothing you've claimed in your comment is. All "leaked documents" have been shown to be fakes. Badly translated, with literal cursors captured in the screenshot in some cases.

Many News Outlets like BBC and Vice have also done documentaries on the issue, with BBC having the opportunity to actually go inside the vocational training schools. The result? No matter how hard BBC tried to portray the schools as hell on earth, including blatantly mistranslating interviewee’s words, using out of context satellite images, and making up lies about a “graffiti that they just so happened to have found on a wall,” the documentary shows nothing of the accused “human right violations,” which of course upsets the conspiracy advocates.

If anyone needs some entertaining debunking of this nonsense, watch the BBC's documentary about it, where they find absolutely nothing but use scary music and shaky cam to push the lies. Google: "breaking down the bbcs visit to hotan xinjiang"

Such an intellectually lazy accusation that people are part of some "propaganda machine" because they simply call out obvious nonsense propaganda and lies from our own country's media.

This has been one of the more absurd mainstream conspiracy theories pushed in living memory. The ridiculous claims of millions in prison and people being taken off the street to be tortured in vans for reasons nobody can even be bothered to invent a reason for. This is classic atrocity propaganda. The region has been visited by numbers of organisations who all find everything to be fine, yet the EU refuses to visit, when the UN visited and found everything above board, the High Commissioner was forced to resign.

>Multiple news organizations have published high quality satellite photos of the Chinese concentration camps for ethnic minorities and Muslims

All that has been published has been repeatedly debunked. Photographs are faked or of completely different parts of China. Fake witness testimony is laughed at even on extreme sinophobic websites like reddit. https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/e9ad4n/i_am_rushan_ab...

She claims to be an Uyghur activist and that many of her friends were locked up in the concentration camps. So what is the big news? She failed to mention her association with NED, a literal branch of CIA, and her participation in the human rights abuse in Guantanamo Bay in 2003, an _actual_ verifiable human rights atrocity.

Then you have mainstream news agencies using this kind of thing as a source.

https://newlinesmag.com/reportage/the-big-business-of-uyghur...

This is a fake news article from a fake magazine funded by a fake university. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairfax_University_of_America#... . It's 20km down the road from CIA University.

>interviewed both victims and former jailers who have fled the country.

For an apparent genocide of millions of people, something claimed by a man, Adrian Zenz, who's been sent by God on a mission to rid the world of homosexuals and communists, nobody has ever been able to find a single credible refugee. Zenz is funded by the CIA.

The BBC even publishes obvious deepfakes of "victims" sourced from Zenz. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/85qihtvw6e/the-faces-from-c...

All of these pictures are fake people, created with such tech as https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/ .

>Chinese officials on record boast about the 100s of thousands they have imprisoned or send to prison like factories across the country and the children they have separated from their parents for "re-education".

This is not true. Nothing you've claimed in your comment is. All "leaked documents" have been shown to be fakes. Badly translated, with literal cursors captured in the screenshot in some cases.

January 2019: China invited UN observers.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1456065

June 2019: China invited UN High commissioner.

https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/China-Invites-UN-to-Visi...

Many News Outlets like BBC and Vice have also done documentaries on the issue, with BBC having the opportunity to actually go inside the vocational training schools. The result? No matter how hard BBC tried to portray the schools as hell on earth, including blatantly mistranslating interviewee’s words, using out of context satellite images, and making up lies about a “graffiti that they just so happened to have found on a wall,” the documentary shows nothing of the accused “human right violations,” which of course upsets the conspiracy advocates.

If anyone needs some entertaining debunking of this nonsense, watch the BBC's documentary about it, where they find absolutely nothing but use scary music and shaky cam to push the lies.

https://medium.com/@sunfeiyang/breaking-down-the-bbcs-visit-...

If every single person made some positive change and moved the needle... then nothing else would happen. Because there's profit to be made, the issue is global capitalism. Environmental disaster is just a side effect.

Th notion of "Ethical Consumption" is a completely unworkable concept that's been long debunked.

See here for example, there are many others:

https://www.marxist.ca/article/why-there-is-no-ethical-consu...

You're a bigot for pretending to believe such obvious bullshit.

That's a ridiculous and obvious lie. This kind of absurd nonsense can only be founded on bigotry.

Interesting thanks!

Maybe this one? https://i.imgur.com/avjsowj.png

How can we bring down temperatures?

The "Uighur genocide" war propaganda has gotten completely out of control. Even the US State department dropped it early into Biden's presidency apparently realising how ridiculous it was. However it's still got a lot of momentum and the masses have swallowed it wholesale. It's dumbfounding and terrifying to me how much of it is still regurgitated wholesale on mass media when it's trivially demonstrated that every single part of it comes from CIA funded orgs like the NED or even just random crackpots like Adrian Zenz who are led by God to fight homosexuality and Communism.

The Chinese are supposedly imprisoning or killing millions and the evidence is this one girl who they won't give a passport to, or a google maps satellite image of a school, or a BBC documentary with scary music and shaky cam, or a random person linked with the CIA who managed to "escape".

"Please don’t take anything in this post as supporting China..."

Why you even feel the need to say this is weird.

The time to drop that support is long passed. UTF-8 has won, the value of pandering to these ancient codepages versus the cost of choking and displaying mojibake just because someone dared to add a kanji character to a CSV should be clear by now.

It shouldn't need a BOM. Besides, UTF-8 doesn't need a BOM at all.

>This blog post screams of vulture capitalism.

This is Hacker News?

You can never prove causality.

Yes but you can't plan these things. So here we are...

As unemployment is about to skyrocket during this pandemic, America's tight coupling of healthcare with purchasing power is going to be revealed as a poor design for keeping maximal citizens healthy. Spain has nationalised all its private hospitals.