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Google it bro, links right to a post where it is confirmed that it does and even mentions “contrary to popular belief”
A lot of random abstract comments like this about AI.
Share anecdotes and examples if you have any
So why would I take your advice on this topic?
I bet there are 1000 other things you don’t know about file uploads.
The LLM does know, and if I think it looks weird I can research it manually.
It’s called: Being of normal functioning intelligence
And caring about the product and the work (and the money!)
I love the argument that “AI code doesn’t feel like mine :(“ but you’ll use some shit library from 12 years ago??
Are any of you actually developers? Ffs
Am I allowed to use Mistral 7b locally to build W9 automation or do I still need your permission?
Lol this site!!!!
Maybe you get a dopamine hit from comments like that.
Worst people here
You might not care about making anything or getting customers but this is HackerNews so get used to people like me
@dang @tomhow If you want to practice fairness for once in your lives
I very actively work using LLMs (no “agentic” stuff) and agree with you - they are only really worth tasking out tedium to.
But a lot of - say a DM feature - is tedium. Something simple like adding reactions, adding read receipts. It’s not hard at all. The LLM easily excels at the task and yet I didn’t have to do it. There are 1000s of those tasks. Handling file uploads, filling out a W9 and emailing it to the user, cron jobs for digest emails. All very easy problems most LLMs can do. There are just countless tasks if you’re building a real SaaS and I don’t want to do them all.
The big problems LLMs can’t do are only as such because there’s no way to put it into a simple, linear instruction. Once you can though, it’s now an easy task (whether or not you use an LLM).
But yeah we’re saying the same thing - let the LLM do the 1000s of tedious tasks you normally wouldn’t be bothered to spend time on.
Build the entire SaaS (which is mostly that tedium) instead of just the MVP thing you need without any niceties. I find it opens up more opportunity, like for example, we are about to hire our first full-time employee because we’re taking on so much more business.
With them, I’m making the whole SaaS. I just made the best DM experience last night. I never would have before. Feels and looks just like iMessage, because the users are coming from that, and it’s just for a small biz. It’s been planned for a while because the messages involve so much file sharing, it was time to build a custom solution, but I had been putting it off because there’s a lot of moving parts.
Doing our own in-house e-signing, email marketing, invoicing too. With just me as the dev. Other options from vendors were too expensive and complicated. Built an invoicing product too, it even writes a pretty good note based on all previous notes for that client.
Almost every business integration - outside a few like payments, hosting, email - become code problems.
If you’re doing it right you should be building more than you ever have before.
And btw random non-devs like car rental hosts and barbers are doing the basic site lead form type stuff for their businesses so without LLMs you’re now doing only beginner stuff. You won’t seem like a real dev anymore. Any random can use that vercel product and it even deploys to a URL. That’s the small biz prosumer case.
The real devs should be doing massive projects a rando can’t do. Or one that displaces an expensive or complicated integration.
Tons of opportunity at every corner.
Valuation dropped from $18b to $1b
Surprised to see they are profitable though.
But you are right that it’s beginner level writing.
What’s intellectually “mine” is the task anyway, not the code.
You should be able to strip all the creative intelligence out of the code and what you’d have there is a prompt.
Think the author means most back-end software is a glorified spreadsheet (CRUD app with a few sorting algorithms).
The last 10-20 years in software has been more about new device interfaces, improving UI/UX, and networking technologies. I think of things like streaming, 3D games, live chat, video content, mobile apps, and LLMs.
Anyone who thinks about software like that would not instill confidence in me that they make very good software.
> You can watch sensible people argue for an hour over a button because, somewhere deep inside the conversation, the button has become connected to a future pile of money.
> It means understanding that not every problem is existential, not every idea belongs on the roadmap, and not every abstraction deserves to exist.
> waste away in Margaritaville tinkering with shit that doesn't need tinkering with.
I don't really understand what each paragraph has to do with each other, or why this message is being shared with me today.
I don't even mind that style of writing, but it should be more specific and interesting if it's going to be stream of consciousness style like that (IMO). To do all that, and deliver just vague half-points and boring assertions, felt like I was just waiting for some kind of punchline or point to be made that I could nod my head at but no thought was stuck with long enough.
The conclusion was like they tried to come up with anything just to turn the essay in on time.
The year was 2002, VB6 had just been retired for VB.NET which had 0 backward compatibility.
And then we all became Flash/AS3 developers.
The End
What’s a Tier 1 language?
Wasn’t a whiteboard replacement.
Wasn’t design software.
Wasn’t a PM tool.
Even when the Miro power users would bust it out in meetings, it was always so painful to watch.
I don’t know what the point of Miro really was. There was a time Figma was doing something similar (FigJam), so maybe there was a trend for a sec.
No idea why or how it’s worth over a billion dollars.
Anyone reading this going “Noooo not Miro!!!” ?