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> TLS fingerprinting and Cloudflare are easy to bypass. There are lots of libraries that do so.

Easy for you does not mean easy for everyone. My experience is that TLS fingerprinting paired with blocking specific user agents gets a variety of majority of bot traffic.

It's the same a basic online security: You can protect against script kiddies with basic hygiene. If the threat analysis is Mossad, then yeah, you're fucked.

That may be true where you live, but some of us have to deal with 打着红旗反红旗.

I participate in developing anti-censorship tools. Chinese are a significant population, and it has some overlap with activists there. In practice, identity settles at "who controls this email address".

Self-signed PGP is very occasionally used to prove continuity across channels or addresses. Cross-signed basically never.

In the same way that monasteries preserved ancient greek philosophy during the middle ages, hopefully some groups will maintain our modern culture through these dark ages.

A sufficient number of people are satisfied with human slop. That the new slop comes from LLMs makes no difference.

In the same direction, if you can't cell the AI slop from the low-quality human output, does the source matter?

The problem is quantity. Has been for a while, the robots are only making it more obvious.

It's not about perfectly identifying AI content. There's a relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/810/

When posts fall within "acceptable" then it does not actually matter where it comes from. Logorrhea, massively offtopic, and/or shitposting are bad when humans do it. Those should suffer the same fate.

Historically it was tolerable, but has become the highest priority today because machines have cranked up the volume. If we mis-identify human garbage as robot nonsense it does not matter.

They are talking about social norms. Inversely, "creepers".

Most adults understand why men should not, generally, be hanging out in the women's clothing department. When accidental violations of those norms are pointed out, they apologize and correct. Creepers, OTOH, gonna creep.

For their own well-being, online communities should police repeated violation of social norms. Otherwise the normals leave and creepers take over.