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free speech and hate speech are the same thing. only platforming speech you agree with is, by definition, not free speech.
eh, shit's always off the rails for leftists. it's a huge grift that they have to keep going. that's why places like france, which have implemented many, many of the changes that leftists in America want, still protest non stop. protesting is the grift. you can have government spending at like 50% of GDP (france was 57% recently) funding an endless welfare state with free education, worker protections, unfettered illegal immigration, every leftist wet dream you can realistically think of, and they still protest.
the grift works though, in part because the changes they protest for usually take a toll on the system over time, until the system soft or hard collapses. then you get social unrest. that's exactly you're seeing in france now. i dont even feel bad for france.
sounds like i hit a nerve.
that's like saying the solution is for everything to just be perfect. well of course. the problem is, that's not a realistic solution. the whole "No kings" movement in itself is an example of this. trump isn't a king nor is he trying to be, and most of the shit he does is rather milk toast. yet where were the "no kings" protestors when we were discussing forced vaccines? oh that's right, most supported it. where were the "my body my choice" people when we were discussing forced vaccines or else you can't work and feed your family? or yeah as it turns out in that case, it's not really your choice (in any realistic sense).
if the No Kings people truly want to be taken seriously, the best thing they can do is just admit they are wrong about their whole schtick. unfortunately the chances of that happening are exactly zero % since pride stands in the way.
watch and observe. literally nobody believes in free speech. people believe in policies and agendas, and "freedom" is just a tool used to push it. the right wing does this, especially in economics, all the time, where they want the rich to be "free" to fuck the poor. take a step back, observe the trends, and be honest with yourself, and it will be quite obvious that freedom itself is just a tool used in politics, nobody actually believes in it as an end to aspire to. this isn't 1980 anymore. milton friedman is long gone.
can't even take this shit seriously anymore. for years when the left controlled twitter they ruled with an iron fist. twitter, meta (then FB), instagram, youtube, would somehow "completely randomly" come to the same conclusions to deplatform people all at once. even now, britain arrests people for wrong think social media posts. people like james damore lost his job for saying the most innocuous milk toast shit you could imagine. and everyone was fine with it, so long as they were the ones calling the shots.
all the bullshitting about complaining about centralization, third party this and that, freedom of speech, can't take that shit seriously. somehow they uniquely find only violations of these from people in the "other" side of the aisle. it's just so exhausting and obviously bad faith engagement. and the right isn't really any better, they do the same thing, just flipped. i think it's about time we mostly just admit: libertarians are fools (that used to be me LOL), and nobody in western culture genuinely cares about "free speech". everything they support is free speech, everything they dislike is "hate speech" (notice how the narrative changed). it's all so obvious to anyone who zooms out and looks at the larger trends. just get over it and embrace authoritarianism. just be honest about who you are.
you’re correct. unfortunately the type of people on hacker news these days are more interested in feeling self righteous than actually being correct. i think when Twitter was taken over it really shook a lot of them, so they seek refuge anywhere they can. open debate is what they fear the most, so the best route for them to avoid any risk of severe cognitive dissonance is to close off discussion and make “i’m correct and you’re wrong” the starting point. and yes to be specific i’m mostly talking about leftists
if things go in the shitter economically, often the wife tries to take the kids. it's a brutal reality, but in this life men are universally valued for what they can provide. if they cant provide, time is ticking until society kicks them to the curb.
your statement is not incompatible with mine. the U.S. can both still be on top and declining at the same time. They are not mutually exclusive
> Decouple the value of human life from economic output.
christianity ahead of the game once again
can you elaborate on this? what do you mean that the christian view includes heaven having “work” in it?
american hegemony has been on the decline for decades. flexing its military is a last ditch attempt to reverse course, it’s not the beginning of the decline. whether it works or not is up for debate and for the future to hold, but what isn’t up for debate is that the soft power gig clearly wasn’t working.
what’s wrong with authoritarianism?
"Be fruitful and multiply."
- someone much smarter and wiser than me
yeah this is hacker news. we only share our data with Dario, Altman, Musk, and the CCP. Not untrustworthy people like zuckerberg.
mass obesity is a product of people eating unhealthy. i have access to plenty of luxuries compared to the rest of the world, and even America, yet my BMI is about ~20. individuals are responsible for being fat.
contraception access and abortion. any sane, forward-thinking society would make both illegal. but current capitalism won't allow it since people care more about immediate profit rather than longer term thinking.
the data simply disagrees. 100 years ago things were much, much worse, yet people had more kids. people can cope all they want but their complaints don't align with reality and all measurements which indicate that more developed countries have fewer kids, not more. though i know that admitting one is selfish isn't something most want to do, so i definitely get why people rationalize it by other reasons.
he's not really "framing" it that way. that's just simply exactly what it is.
because it affects real public policy. so, how do you determine if the use of this mobility is good or bad? because that's what's going to inform one's position on public policy.
it's still necessary, it's just that people have shifted who they worship.
you cant seriously believe that any other big player in LLMs is actually better, right? how many companies has open AI and anthropic hacked, that we at least know of? you think they are any more or less trustworthy than zuck? Not to mention that the competition for OpenAI and anthropic are all controlled by the CCP, which doesnt sound any better.
obviously zuck has his problems, and people are free to make their own choices. but at least let's acknowledge that if you use any LLM at this time, your grounds for objecting to Muse are anything but logical.
agi is artificial general intelligence. sol5.6, astra, fable are already wildly more intelligent than the average person. we already have agi. however people need to keep the moving target so they have something to talk about, otherwise the voracious appetite for novelty will not be met.
what we don’t have yet are the tools to take full advantage of the agi we do have. they’re coming soon.
how do you determine if that is good or bad? humans have lots of basic traits and tendencies that have been demonstrated over written history. does the fact humans have always done something mean it is good?
> Tinder doesn’t know if they were successful or not. They just know you stopped opening the app.
what do you mean? if you stop opening the app, they were not successful. any seas founders here who want their users to stop using the service?
is nobody going to just say it out loud? we've all seen the online dating statistics: when women have unlimited choice, they are extremely picky. whether one thinks that is good or bad is irrelevant. but the observed data is very clear. it has a lot less to do with shared interests than society has led us to believe. Jeremy Meeks has entered the chat.