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Re:Yikes: Gun Sales up 39% this year by icey on Wednesday April 08, 2009 @05:34PM (#553452)
So if they didn't have access to guns they would have decided that they wanted to live after all? That doesn't make sense to me.
Re:Yikes: Gun Sales up 39% this year by philwelch on Wednesday April 08, 2009 @05:43PM (#553475)
The thought processes of suicidal people don't tend to make sense to me, either.

Suicide is often a fairly impulsive thing, and suicidal people can be deterred by even slight inconveniences. That's why things like suicide barriers on bridges work. Guns are a very attractive method of suicide—they're rather instant, painless, easy to use, and so forth. I'm in favor of gun ownership, but suicidal people, deprived of easy methods of suicide, will often reconsider entirely. The moment will pass and they will not kill themselves.

Of course, some people decide to kill themselves and remain very determined about the process. Not all suicides are alike.

Re:Yikes: Gun Sales up 39% this year by icey on Wednesday April 08, 2009 @05:46PM (#553483)
If we get rid of guns because of the suicidal people, will we get rid of pills next?

After that we can get rid of rope, fire, plastic bags, anything with a sharp edge, carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide, anything flammable and water; just to be safe.

I think your point is that guns make suicide easy, and I get that; but I think it's a tough spot to defend in terms of gun control. Suicide is easy, people will always find a way to do it.

Re:Yikes: Gun Sales up 39% this year by philwelch on Wednesday April 08, 2009 @07:43PM (#553633)
As I said, I'm against gun control too. But I'm also in favor of facts, and the facts seem to indicate that having more guns around just might allow more people to impulsively kill themselves.
Re:Yikes: Gun Sales up 39% this year by tjic on Wednesday April 08, 2009 @05:42PM (#553473)
> because you own a gun, you're more at risk of killing yourself

If you've got a cite that shows that the presence of a gun increases the chance of suicide, I'd like to see it.

Of course, correlation != causation.

Lots of suicidal people buy guns. When they can't get guns, they use other methods.

Japan's suicide rate is twice the US's, despite Japan's strict gun control.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_in_Japan#Methods

Common methods of suicide [ in Japan ] are jumping in front of trains, leaping off high places, hanging, or overdosing on medication.

A newer method, gaining in popularity partly to publicity from Internet suicide websites, is to use household products to make the poisonous gas hydrogen sulfide.

Re:Yikes: Gun Sales up 39% this year by cnlwsu on Wednesday April 08, 2009 @05:41PM (#553471)
really? I've never seen a peer reviewed study even suggest that. Sounds like an assumption made from irrational fear.