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Re:GrapheneOS fixes Android VPN leak Google refused to patch by aucisson_masque on Saturday May 09, 2026 @05:57PM (#48078653)
You make a lot of claim yet gives no source or material to back up your claim.

Beside, what would be a great distribution beyond grapheneos. iOS isn't, stock Android is much worst, calyxos ? Lineageos ? They are much worst on the security.

Re:GrapheneOS fixes Android VPN leak Google refused to patch by vsgherzi on Saturday May 09, 2026 @05:32PM (#48078459)
Seems like volunteers and donations? Is there something else I can read to be more informed on this?
Re:GrapheneOS fixes Android VPN leak Google refused to patch by bigfatkitten on Saturday May 09, 2026 @06:19PM (#48078845)
> NSA long time contractor

Motorola Mobility LLC, a US-headquartered, entirely Chinese owned subsidiary of the Chinese computer manufacturer Lenovo, is an NSA contractor?

That’s news.

Re:GrapheneOS fixes Android VPN leak Google refused to patch by spring-onion on Saturday May 09, 2026 @06:49PM (#48079021)
Project member here.

> A distro with shady revenue sources (check for yourself)

Do me a favor and tell me about our apparent shady revenue sources. We are run entirely by donations, there are large donors too.

> with shady hardware restrictions that only permits to use spyware phones from google

We cover this topic literally everywhere on a daily basis, with a thorough list of requirements found on our website.

> after years of complaints now permits you to use hardware from an NSA long time contractor.

Motorola Solutions and Motorola Mobility are entirely different companies. We've partnered with the latter.

> No, claiming that some magic hardware makes you more secure is not a valid reason

To bring you a rather extreme but also straightforward example, leaked documents from forensic software show we're holding up incredibly well.

> when you are using hardware where they have every reason to track you even further. Saying "nothing was found so far" is no excuse

Okay, so nothing we say will encourage you to change your thinking then.

> Now claims to solve a VPN leak when not long ago this same group were exposed promoting a governamental VPN and honeypot, a.k.a. Tor.

What?

> Just don't expose yourself to bait distros that forces you into spyware.

Strong claims like yours should ideally be backed up with equally strong sources and evidence, otherwise you quickly run out of steam.

> (not even complaining about their shady software choices).

Which are?

Re:GrapheneOS fixes Android VPN leak Google refused to patch by nunobrito on Sunday May 10, 2026 @10:14AM (#48084162)
For Motorola the management changed while government customers remained the same, perhaps now adding also the Chinese gov into the mix which certainly will "approve" the hardware within. You know this quite well.

I'd happily talk in detail about donors when you first make public the values and donor list for the bigger ones, which you don't for some shady reason and only reveal a few. Even from those few, your biggest public donor are the people well known to dodge real privacy in crypto faster than vampires dodging holy water. Please disclose how much money you pay to the blog/media to shill this project so frequently.

You won't do any of this. You know that, I know that, you know that I know that and still you will continue to profit on those who will never read these comments.

Re:GrapheneOS fixes Android VPN leak Google refused to patch by YourDadVPN on Saturday May 09, 2026 @06:00PM (#48078681)
Is the CalyxOS Vs GrapheneOS shitflinging about to start up again?
Re:GrapheneOS fixes Android VPN leak Google refused to patch by timschumi on Saturday May 09, 2026 @06:09PM (#48078755)
Not sure where CalyxOS came up in this?
Re:GrapheneOS fixes Android VPN leak Google refused to patch by YourDadVPN on Saturday May 09, 2026 @06:31PM (#48078908)
The developers of each have engaged in a few flamewars and the commenter I replied to was critical of GrapheneOS using similar language, so I made a (tongue in cheek comment) implying the commenter was starting the flamewar back up
Re:GrapheneOS fixes Android VPN leak Google refused to patch by MYEUHD on Saturday May 09, 2026 @05:42PM (#48078530)
> a governamental VPN and honeypot, a.k.a. Tor.

Why is tor a honeypot?

Re:GrapheneOS fixes Android VPN leak Google refused to patch by Root_Denied on Saturday May 09, 2026 @06:14PM (#48078807)
I wouldn't call it a honeypot, but it's probably compromised by the feds.

It was shown a few years back that if you control enough of the exit nodes (more than some specific % that I don't remember off the top of my head) then you can associate traffic across most/all of the Tor network. Since running exit nodes is relatively cheap the assumption was that the feds (or some other state actor) were already doing so.

I'd call that materially different than a honeypot though since it wasn't designed for that purpose.