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Re:Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attrac... by tehjoker on Monday November 17, 2025 @01:57PM (#45956726)
As a Jew, the soon as I hear "Israel" and "App" I think of Pegasus. In this genocide, the Israeli government has shown it will cross any line. Remember the pager attack? So I would like there to be zero Israeli controlled products anywhere near me. That plus everyone should be engaged in boycotts divestment and sanctions against the regime.
Re:Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attrac... by vladgur on Monday November 17, 2025 @02:56PM (#45957544)
As soon as I hear Israel and App, I think "manufactured controversy".

What i wish instead people thought of:

- Waze(now Google Maps) - ICQ - Moovit - Viber - GetTaxi - Apples FaceID - Xbox Kinect

And hundreds of other consumer tech that we have all used.

"As a jew" is a dimension that has nothing to do with your political views which have more impact on your view of israel than your genes.

Re:Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attrac... by ngcazz on Monday November 17, 2025 @03:00PM (#45957575)
Sure, the Palestinians were ethnically cleansed, but at least we got Kinect
Re:Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attrac... by hersko on Monday November 17, 2025 @04:04PM (#45958282)
Re:Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attrac... by tehjoker on Monday November 17, 2025 @04:22PM (#45958482)
The resistance and the resilience of the Palestinian people have prevented their ethnic cleansing. This is not because Israel isn't trying as hard as it can within the bounds the international community is allowing.
Re:Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attrac... by baked_beanz on Monday November 17, 2025 @04:28PM (#45958541)
Ethnic cleansing involves forcible expulsion of a population -- not just mass killing -- with the goal of achieving cultural or racial homogeneity in a given territory.

Israel is guilty of both the forcible expulsion and mass killing of Palestinians, so the definition certainly applies.

Re:Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attrac... by wahnfrieden on Monday November 17, 2025 @03:05PM (#45957636)
Why are you obfuscating the concern? The issue is not that it is an app that is popularly found on devices!

The issue is that it is an app which is forcibly installed without consent or disclosure, which has privileged access to the system and beyond the scope of the device vendor. To have no care for that reeks suspiciously of nationalistic bias.

Re:Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attrac... by vladgur on Monday November 17, 2025 @03:34PM (#45957970)
I agree that the issue is what you described -- an bloatware installed on a common handset manufactured by South Korean tech company. That should be the controversy.

Focusing on the factthe software is made by an Israeli company is manufacturing a controversy which is in fact extremely biased. We should be focusing on the decisions made by the South Korean manufacturer.

Re:Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attrac... by wahnfrieden on Monday November 17, 2025 @05:59PM (#45959411)
Why are you obfuscating the concern? Bloatware does not accurately describe remote control backdoor access.

Which country has backdoor control of the phones via this app?

Re:Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attrac... by vladgur on Monday November 17, 2025 @07:35PM (#45960089)
I read through the linked article and an article on smex.org and there was nothing about "remote control backdoor access".

It complains about inability to uninstall from the manufacturers handset which is a manufacturers decision.

Again both articles manufacture controversy simply by nature that the Appcloud is associated with an Israeli company, not by what the app actually does or not by the fact that nobody forced Samsung to install this app on their handsets.

If you have information showing that Samsung is selling phones that are remote controlled by another government or corporate actor, that would be extremely newsworthy. Please share these news when you find them

Re:Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attrac... by trollbridge on Monday November 17, 2025 @02:26PM (#45957155)
And as someone who worked for multiple cyber firms out of Israel… it’s entirely reasonable to double-check that apps from Israeli firms don’t have a dual purpose to feed data to Western intelligence agencies.
Re:Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attrac... by thenaturalist on Monday November 17, 2025 @03:10PM (#45957698)
Please rid yourself of your smartphone and personal computer at your earliest convenience!

:D

Re:Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attrac... by dogma1138 on Monday November 17, 2025 @03:03PM (#45957608)
Sure you are.
Re:Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attrac... by tehjoker on Monday November 17, 2025 @04:27PM (#45958524)
It's antisemetic to question whether someone is Jewish based on their disdain for genocide.