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Re:DOJ seizes $15B in Bitcoin from 'pig butchering' scam bas... by StackRanker3000 on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @02:23PM (#45596560)
To what extreme do you take this? Would you rather be killed than scam someone? That’s a principled stance if so, but I’d personally rather you try to scam me if the alternative is you being beaten up, or worse

> I personally have no sympathy for these people whether or not they're victims

That’s an interesting moral philosophy. Do you think that no one ever deserves sympathy for something they were forced to do? If a Mexican drug cartel threatens to kill someone’s entire family if they don’t perform a reprehensible act, no one should feel the tiniest bit bad for them if they don’t stand on principle?

I assume you don’t actually think that, but when you hear that people are being kidnapped, trafficked abroad, and forced to work in clandestine Burmese call centers, what do you think their options are?

Re:DOJ seizes $15B in Bitcoin from 'pig butchering' scam bas... by jasomill on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @01:54PM (#45596187)
The 24 Nuremburg defendents all held high level leadership positions and were hardly representative of the rank and file "just doing their jobs".
Re:DOJ seizes $15B in Bitcoin from 'pig butchering' scam bas... by otterley on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @01:48PM (#45596131)
The freer you are, the easier it is to stand on principle. When your life or your freedom is at stake, you will do things that you never thought possible. We are genetically programmed to preserve our own lives, as well as those of our loved ones, at just about any cost.
Re:DOJ seizes $15B in Bitcoin from 'pig butchering' scam bas... by EvanAnderson on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @02:03PM (#45596325)
I don't want somebody being held against their will and forced to do a "job" to be beaten because I wanted to fuck with a scammer.
Re:DOJ seizes $15B in Bitcoin from 'pig butchering' scam bas... by lawlessone on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @02:04PM (#45596337)
>I personally have no sympathy for these people whether or not they're victims. You get a choice in life to stand on your morals or allow them to be eroded. If you choose to do something you know is wrong then you are no better than any other person who knowingly commits such acts.

That's nice, but if someone points a weapon at me and tells me to rob people over the phone i'll probably do it.

Re:DOJ seizes $15B in Bitcoin from 'pig butchering' scam bas... by tomjakubowski on Thursday October 16, 2025 @10:18PM (#45612753)
In many US jurisdictions you'd likely be able to argue a duress defense in this case.

https://www.egattorneys.com/duress-defense