I'm pretty sure people said the same thing after operation Cast Lead and other previous crackdowns. A country making itself into an international pariah while pursuing local security from an antagonist it nurtured in the first place is extremely myopic. As this conflict has dragged on, it has become more and more apparent that a great many Israelis (including in government) view their strategic situation through the lens of ancient historical conflicts from >2000 years ago and fantasize about resorting to the triumphant excesses of legend. Mass psychosis is not a good basis for long-term security.

Open support for a genocide. Wow.

It’s a very high hill to die on, expecting Israeli civilians to prioritize the lives of enemies over their own. Any historical precedent, or are we entering into the fuzzy realm of uncharted morality?

It's a neat little trick to just say any child you shoot in the head is Hamas. Or any women a children you starve was actually Hamas. Or every hospital you blow up was because Hamas was hiding in there. Or just pretend that October 2023 was the start of the conflict ignoring the decades of death, apartheid, and brutality preceding it.

I'm just glad people like you are willing to publish stuff like this to the internet so we can look back and understand why genocides are allowed to happen.

>> It's a neat little trick to just say any child you shoot in the head is Hamas. Or any women a children you starve was actually Hamas.

Your words; not mine. I am supporting the military campaign against Gaza, and I also reject the separation between "Gaza" and "Hamas" as entirely artificial and serving an agenda.

Hamas is the elected government of Gaza, they administrate Gaza, they pay salaries and they're the ones you negotiate with regarding Gaza. When your hear casualties numbers coming from the "Gaza Health Ministry", they're provided by Hamas.

In October 7th 2023 it's Gaza, not Hamas, who started a war with Israel (not with the Israeli Defense Forces). It's a war between populations that for various reasons will not coexist on the same piece of land. Back in WWII, USA fought Japan, not the "Imperial Japanese Armed Forces".

This is a war between nations.

The things people are willing to publish.

The "Hamas is the elected government therefore women and children deserve to die" is Israeli propaganda.

It was a single election 20 years ago for a party running on change, not what Hamas stands for now. It was a protest vote. Palestinians have been experiencing genocide for decades.

Your seething hate for brown people is apart though. I'm glad you're willing to share it for the world to see.

>> Hamas is the elected government therefore women and children deserve to die

It's your own propaganda. Not mine, nor the Israeli government.

If your concern was with saving "brown people" lives, the most effective way to do so was to advocate for Hamas to release the remaining Israeli hostages and surrender. As it is, you're advocating for an Israeli surrender.

As it is, I openly and proudly call for Israel to win this war, decisively, with a surrender of their enemy.

P.S. Israelis are "brown people", given that most of the Israelis are of Arab origin (Jews, Christian and Muslim), about 70% or so.

An actual white supremacist right here on good ol hacker news.

Too bad you weren't around in WWII to throw insults at those who are looking to win.

If I remember correctly, the side holding people in concentration camps and shooting children in their heads weren't the good guys. It's not surprising that someone like you is making themselves the hero for supporting genocide though.

Ah it all makes sense. You exclusively post pro-Israeli comments on a thirteen year old account. How much do they pay you?

"the only reasonable explanation for disagreeing with me is that he's paid" :)

I think it's a far more generous conclusion than he's just a guy openly and frequently supporting genocide for free :)

His point of view represents the political norm in Israel. The same language is used by most members of government.

The war in Gaza did not save a single Israeli’s life. Hundreds of Israeli are dead because of it though, many through accidents and friendly fire.

So it’s not about prioritizing lives, it’s about prioritizing ideologies.

And the pervasive ideology in Israel is that Palestinians are not people, and therefore our children, the IDF soldiers who daily target them, are not war criminals.

Deferring this war is what placed Hamas in a position to attack on October 7th. Never again.

Israel has seen more rockets and daily attacks than probably in its entire existance since they commenced the Gaza genocide what are you talking about.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say with this? The claim is that there are less rockets now, but that article doesn't show anything for 2024 or 2025. There is an article specifically for 2024 that is linked but only shows attacks up till May. Whether that means rockets have stopped, as is the claim, or that they simply haven't been recorded in the Wiki is unknown.

You are openly supporting the slaughter of an innocent population. Shame on you.

No, they are not. They're explaining the actual benefits Israeli citizens have gained from the war. That's valid to note.