These are not terrorist orgs at all wtf are you talking about

The USA and Germany have ruled that UNRWA is a branch of Hamas and therefore illegal.

Coincidentally, they seem to rule this about anyone who brings food or water to the Palestinians.

The "Do you condemn Hamas?" folks have won.

> Do you condemn Hamas

What’s the alternative? Regardless of what Israel did or did not do Hamas could have ended this “war” at any moment they wanted to. None of their actions were in any way remotely in the interest of the people of Gaza. Providing them [Hamas] material or other support only prolonged it..

The alternative is obvious: a single democratic state and the end of ethnosupremacy.

That’s not sustainable. Best outcome would be ending up like Lebanon.

Besides Belgium (and that’s nowhere close) there are hardly any successful democracies that were evenly split primarily on ethno-religious grounds and didn’t entirely collapse on the first opportunity.

Lebanon is the way it is because the United States and Israel continuously sabotage its government to align with their interests.

You are denying the agency of the people living there and/or are clueless about the country..

US and Israel started the Lebanese civil war and the enmity between the Christian and Muslim populations?

Well in a way.. at least the Palestinian refugees were a huge shock that shifted the scales. But the balance was very tight and the country would have blown up eventually anyway.

You can’t build a democracy when each half of the population hates the other half and considers that their ideological views and their ways of life are incompatible. Even US is learning that the hard way (again..)..

This is proven false by the existence of the West Bank, where is there no Hamas and there's still a war. Who is fighting the war there?

In case you're commenting in good faith and genuinely don't know this, "Do you condemn Hamas?" refers to a pattern in media interviews from the earlier days of the holocaust. The interviewer would simply ignore what the interviewee said and repeat "Do you condemn Hamas?" until the interviewee answered with a boolean, at which point the interview was over. No discussion was allowed. You either support everything Israel is doing (boolean true answer) or you are a terrorist (boolean false answer). No nuance allowed. No debate allowed. No facts allowed.

There is a lot whole lot of violence in the West Bank, no carpet bombing or tens of thousands of casualties, though. That makes it extremely different.

>Providing them [Hamas] material or other support only prolonged it..

How?

> We should wait for all the facts to come out.

Like indefinitely? Trump’s administration is ignoring the courts and there is no real oversight. Also whatever facts come out they will be drowned by all the other insane idiocy that the US government is doing so nobody will pay attention anyway..

When they start sending US citizens to El Salvador nobody is going to care about some guy whose green card got revoked.

>We should wait for all the facts to come out.

Oh? Before they deport him? If the courts didn't intervene, initiated from his side, he would be gone

This is part of the trick that israel is trying to pull. Suppose you support Palestine liberation from Israel's violent occupation and apartheid, as does most of the world. Well, so does Hamas, so therefore you support Hamas' goals and are evil and a terrorist.

To apply this in another context, I agree with Trump on very little, but I do agree that Daylight Savings should be gotten rid of. So am I pro-Trump? No, that's absurd.

Or if you are right wing in the US and believe that the US is the land of the free and home of the brave, well, so does Hilary Clinton. Are you pro-Clinton?

The connection is absurd, but it parrotted daily by US politicians and US media.