I've struggled with weight loss my entire life. It's gotten to the point where I'm on multiple blood pressure medications, and the dosages are creeping up. And yet I still find myself thinking about eating constantly. Then I took Zepbound. It was revelatory. It was like a curse was lifted, and my hunger was silenced. I'm down 45 lbs in 4 months.

Perhaps if I didn't have responsibilities or trauma or stress or a thousand other things I could put all my energy into self control. Unfortunately, I only get so many years on this planet, so I'm going to keep taking the drug and spend my mental energy on other persuits.

> Perhaps if I didn't have responsibilities or trauma or stress or a thousand other things I could put all my energy into self control.

This is so relatable. Right before Covid, I was working really hard at counting calories and was looking at going below 200 lbs for the first time in my adult life. Then Covid hit, my life was upended, and I prioritized other things; I'm up about 40 lbs from then.

I can only devote so much energy to this kind of intensive lifestyle change, and other things have been taking precedence (including, recently, working out—that's been a huge lifestyle improvement [other than Wednesday being leg day and my legs still yelling at me], but hasn't led to weight loss).

Nice story, but I stick to my opinion.

Drugs and excuses are merely replacing natural selection.

I've struggled with weight too, and both alcoholic and abusive parents, traumas and stress, and I stuck on discipline and won it.

You should absolutely do what makes you live better, but you aren't solving the root causes, just making excuses.

That's the biggest issue I have, these drugs are just gonna make the world unhealthier and unhappier.

As with everything I'm sure there is a spectrum. There are surely folks who have food addictions, there are surely folks who are not taking accountability for their habits, and there are possibly folks for whom this could be the best or safest option.

This is pure bs.

You get fat because your intake of calories is more than what you burn.

If you can't be bothered to adjust your diet or lifestyle to correct this, what kind of society and human beings are we making?

What a naive way of looking at things. Sure, everyone that's fat is lazy! There cannot be any other explanations, right?

You seemingly forget not everyone is as privileged as you are. Clearly by your take, you can afford to eat healthy and have the leisure time to exercise. A lot more people can't.

Who cares? If someone needs to eat less to get healthy, they can do that and: be miserably hungry or not.

It's like telling people they can't have aspirin during a hangover.

It doesn't follow that your body, when running at a calorific deficit, will continue to run the life support systems at optimal levels. In principle, it's possible (unless you're actually fasting, which is a whole different kettle of fish) for a reduction in energy-in to lead to putting on more weight, if your basal metabolic rate drops more than the food did.

It's complicated. What's true for some people isn't necessarily true for all people. Sure, I'm willing to bet a lot of people – probably most people – are able to choose how fat they are by adjusting their diet and exercise regime, without adverse effects on their health, but that's not a law of biology. I know as many people who struggle to put on weight as struggle to lose it.

> Like..you can't bother to take a walk, eat healthier, so you shell thousands on drugs..

For many of us in the United States (and elsewhere, I'm sure), our built environment makes driving the only feasible mode of transportation. Sure, we can walk for recreation, but at some phases of life carving out that time is extremely difficult.

Regarding food: there are brilliant people devoting their careers to coopting our natural processes to buy their products—and many of those products are unhealthy foods. Fruits and veggies don't have that kind of marketing.

You really shouldn't generalise.

I've been running distance most my life. I stopped when my wife had our first kid to concentrate on working hard and give her as much time off from the kid as I could, then after 6 years I had enough and started running. Two years ago, I hadn't been losing any weight, and I was put on these drugs to help me.

I lost more weight.

I run, walk, and move more than you imagine. It didn't work, but these drugs worked.

Not everything is black and white or fits into your preconceived notions.

Late stage capitalism is what got us in this place.

Add sugar to everything, advertise anything and everything to kids so they are hooked up early, make healthy food expensive so the poor have no choice but to eat unhealthy and so on. Profit!

Now they'll profit once again at the other end "fixing" the issues they caused in the first place. Genius. There's no limit on human ingenuity when it comes to exploiting others.

How is that specifically late stage capitalism

Filling aisles of unhealthy and very tasty stuff then finding the cheat to keep doing this.