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Re:Verso – web browser built on top of the Servo web engine by gkbrk on Sunday August 11, 2024 @11:12AM (#41216754)
Replying to this from Ladybird, which somehow doesn't exist but is able to both render and post comments to this page.
Re:Verso – web browser built on top of the Servo web engine by worble on Sunday August 11, 2024 @10:00AM (#41216211)
Are you trying to say that Ladybird does not exist?

https://github.com/LadybirdBrowser/ladybird

The code is here, you can build and run it right now.

Re:Verso – web browser built on top of the Servo web engine by RandomThoughts3 on Sunday August 11, 2024 @10:19AM (#41216355)
Call me when libweb will be able to render anything interesting. It’s a toy that what I’m trying to say and as it’s using the same technology that other open source engines without trying to push anything really new, it’s not even a very interesting toy.

Ladybird exists and is funded because its main author is an influencer with a public on YouTube, not because it’s an interesting feet of engineering. Like Serenity before, I expect its main achievement will be generating content.

To each their own but what a waste of funding which could have gone to more interesting but less trendy things (like Servo).

Re:Verso – web browser built on top of the Servo web engine by breakfastduck on Sunday August 11, 2024 @11:31AM (#41216894)
Ladybird exists and is funded because the main author is an extremely skilled software developer with a background in building web browsers.

He also built a totally from scratch operating system, and built a very productive and skilled community around it, which branched into building their own web browser as SerenityOS has an 'everything from scratch' policy. How is Serenity not an interesting feat of engineering?

You seem to call it a 'toy' because of where the development is at - this is grossly unfair criticism. By your measure, is all software that isn't at a 100% finished state a toy?

Re:Verso – web browser built on top of the Servo web engine by RandomThoughts3 on Sunday August 11, 2024 @01:27PM (#41217789)
It’s going to be my last reply because I’m somehow flagged (really HN - I thought we were above that - seems like I hit a nerve with the Serenity OS fans).

Neither Serenity nor Libweb are interesting. They are just copy of things we already did decades ago with nothing new to propose and severe NIH. They offer nothing of value above other open source projects which already do what they propose better (call that unfinished if you want). Heck, you can grab a 20 years old copy of Minix and find things which are infinitely more interesting than Serenity. Or Redox which while not trying to push the state of the art in design is written in memory safe language if you want something new.

Ladybird and Serenity are famous because of streaming not because of what they offer. It’s influencer culture applied to open source which I despise. But unsurprisingly it’s a magnet for big co money which wants a cheap shot at being in the limelight.

Re:Verso – web browser built on top of the Servo web engine by klohto on Sunday August 11, 2024 @02:15PM (#41218210)
Enlighten us which BigCo gave Ladybird money?
Re:Verso – web browser built on top of the Servo web engine by pityJuke on Sunday August 11, 2024 @03:39PM (#41218787)
Shopify [0]

[0]: https://ladybird.org/#gi

Re:Verso – web browser built on top of the Servo web engine by gkbrk on Sunday August 11, 2024 @05:03PM (#41219300)
Why is it weird that a company that built their entire business on the web wouldn't want there to be a web browser monopoly controlled by an advertising company? Shouldn't you fund projects that will be beneficial for your company in the future?
Re:Verso – web browser built on top of the Servo web engine by askonomm on Sunday August 11, 2024 @10:09AM (#41216291)
Ladybird very much exists. Been running it successfully in Linux for a while now.
Re:Verso – web browser built on top of the Servo web engine by NBJack on Sunday August 11, 2024 @11:19AM (#41216803)
I think they were referring to the version of Ladybird taking advantage of Swift v6. I agree in part that it is only nice idea until a production ready binary gets released; right now it is just experimental.

That said, it may not be far off at all: https://github.com/LadybirdBrowser/ladybird/issues/933