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Re:Pro CCP 'spamouflage' network pivoting to focus on US ele... by acdha on Friday February 16, 2024 @09:03PM (#39405599)
> both will have similar policies outside.

This is hard to reconcile with real events: for example, Russia has a huge upside to replacing the guy supporting their humiliation in Ukraine with the guy who trying to break up NATO on their behalf – the opposite of “similar”! As for China, one candidate has been consistent in seeing the US as a needed counter to their power, the other has flipped a few times but most recently declined to answer whether he’d protect Taiwan and expressed his dismay over Taiwan having outcompeted in the semiconductor market – I know which of the two a competent opponent would be on being able to outwit, and I bet they’d offer great financing terms for his biggest hotel yet, too.

Re:Pro CCP 'spamouflage' network pivoting to focus on US ele... by latency-guy2 on Friday February 16, 2024 @10:27PM (#39406057)
Trump and Biden's admins are very close together in what their opinions are on China. See Biden maintaining Trump's tariffs, which I remember a lot of Democrats proclaiming would be disastrous for the US economy when it was being instated.

Trump also had no problem saying what his thoughts before, during, and after his presidency, on the topic of China and trade deals. These things are all documented quite well, some are even laws, you may remember some of them, though you might pretend not to.

Tech related, you might pretend not to remember why Hauwei is restricted from use in official capacity (GovTech). You might also pretend not to remember when China was declared a currency manipulator, furthered by even stronger tariffs (what is in place today). Another thing you may pretend not to remember is Trump's admin restricting US firms from investing into Chinese companies.

You might even remember what Trump famously called what sent a lot of the world into a multi-year lockdown.

With history fresh in my own mind, I think that you should be held to the same standard as myself, I think you're dishonest, and I think you revel in it.

Re:Pro CCP 'spamouflage' network pivoting to focus on US ele... by acdha on Saturday February 17, 2024 @03:46PM (#39413398)
> I think you're dishonest, and I think you revel in it.

You know, when you’ve spent an entire reply attacking someone for words you put in their mouth it’s really not the right time to accuse anyone else of dishonesty.

Re:Pro CCP 'spamouflage' network pivoting to focus on US ele... by latency-guy2 on Sunday February 18, 2024 @12:58AM (#39416588)
If you have a rebut for Trump's position not being very consistent when it comes to China rather than your own headcannon, I'll be happy to hear it. Otherwise, you can leave this thread dead and annoy someone else.
Re:Pro CCP 'spamouflage' network pivoting to focus on US ele... by acdha on Sunday February 18, 2024 @10:26AM (#39419781)
Hint: it’s in the comment you replied to. Here’s an example:

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trumps-taiwan-remarks-spark-...

From Taiwan’s perspective, the candidate who has repeatedly vowed that the United States will defend Taiwan is not the same as the one who refuses to take a position which should be easy and has a history of caving when an initial round of bluster fails (remember 2017 when he suddenly flipped to their One China policy?). They don’t want to have to guess whether they’re about to get sold out the next time someone in his family needs a favorable business deal to bail them out of a financial jam.

Re:Pro CCP 'spamouflage' network pivoting to focus on US ele... by latency-guy2 on Monday February 19, 2024 @01:09PM (#39432809)
"One China" is the same policy that ALL presidents have agreed to, blue or red including the current one. This is not a political debate, this is the state's position (meaning the state of the USA) to agree to "One China".

Taiwan can make assertions all they want, but you are really spreading some falsities around.

If you don't believe me, what is the Biden's administration current position on the "One China" policy? Will you start calling Hunter Biden a CCP plant for consistency's sake? Why or why not?

Try again.

Re:Pro CCP 'spamouflage' network pivoting to focus on US ele... by ben_jones on Friday February 16, 2024 @08:25PM (#39405373)
> both will have similar policies outside

The foreign, domestic, and economic policies of both potential presidents are different. Are you really arguing that they have negligible differences?

Re:Pro CCP 'spamouflage' network pivoting to focus on US ele... by latency-guy2 on Friday February 16, 2024 @10:28PM (#39406065)
In what ways are the positions of Biden's and Trump's admin dealings with China, different?
Re:Pro CCP 'spamouflage' network pivoting to focus on US ele... by pixl97 on Friday February 16, 2024 @08:26PM (#39405386)
I mean the leader of the Russian government wants Americans to elect they guy that's saying he'll get rid of a number of constitutional protections, so there is that.