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Re:Amazon Removes Books from Kindle Unlimited After They App... by maxbond on Monday February 27, 2023 @04:13PM (#34961933)
I'd rather news organizations focus on their core competencies. When you allow comments, you're now in the business of spam filtering and social media moderation - neither of which are easy. Better to allow discussion boards to host discussions and news organizations and blogs to host articles.
Re:Amazon Removes Books from Kindle Unlimited After They App... by nirvgorilla on Monday February 27, 2023 @04:15PM (#34961957)
Yeah but allowing comments is one of the primary things of the internet. We don't want internet to become radio and television -- one way communication.
Re:Amazon Removes Books from Kindle Unlimited After They App... by maxbond on Monday February 27, 2023 @04:17PM (#34961972)
I don't really see the problem. We're discussing it right here & now. The primary thing of the web, in my mind, is linking - we can discuss something here even though it's over there.

I think the simplex communication of an article and the half-duplex communication of forums both have their time & place, I don't think it's a problem that television is simplex.

Re:Amazon Removes Books from Kindle Unlimited After They App... by nirvgorilla on Monday February 27, 2023 @04:19PM (#34961998)
Okay. Link the pirated books then. Let's see if HN let's you.

OH. OH.™

Re:Amazon Removes Books from Kindle Unlimited After They App... by maxbond on Monday February 27, 2023 @04:41PM (#34962266)
This is a response to a different comment of yours that was flagged, I can't respond to it but I wanted to offer you this in case it was helpful:

I think maybe you're not communicating as clearly as you imagine? Your statements don't feel connected to me, I don't understand why you feel some of the things you're talking about are related. Maybe you're better at communicating in person than you are over text? Maybe we're all being dumb is a hindrance to you seeing what you might do differently to explain yourself better?

Re:Amazon Removes Books from Kindle Unlimited After They App... by nirvgorilla on Friday March 03, 2023 @03:32AM (#35007159)
Okay how's this? I just made a video about how I feel about this crap.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svrKWMdks4U

Re:Amazon Removes Books from Kindle Unlimited After They App... by maxbond on Friday March 03, 2023 @12:26PM (#35012556)
I dunno dude, it feels like you're singling out really arbitrary people and ranting about them. All the people in your comments section seem like random people, not public figures who invite scrutiny, who are confused about why they were called out and aren't trying to have this kind of discussion.

I understand your frustration with the increasing financialization of online communities/interactions, but it seems like you're blaming the wrong people (creators and people you suspect of supporting them) and making your criticism in an inappropriate way (heated rhetoric targeting everyday people just living their lives).

It's just not okay to call out random people like that and make them answer for perfectly normal behavior which happens to bother you. The people in your comments section are saying they feel harassed and stalked by you - and as far as I can tell, they're right. That made me hesitate to even respond because I wondered if I would be receiving the same kind of treatment.

You seem like someone with a lot of passion and technical ability who sometimes struggles to understand where the line is between making passionately arguing your position and being inappropriate.

I think you should consider taking a break from making content while you figure some stuff out. I think calling out these random, tiny creators creates trouble for them in a really unfair way, but also that it will lead you to a dark place.

I hope that helps.

Re:Amazon Removes Books from Kindle Unlimited After They App... by braingenious on Monday February 27, 2023 @04:25PM (#34962071)
lol you’re… you are commenting here? You could have joined everybody else in commenting on the article but you chose not to?
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Re:Amazon Removes Books from Kindle Unlimited After They App... by braingenious on Monday February 27, 2023 @04:36PM (#34962200)
Buddy I don’t know you in person, but if any of my friends said “I don’t read news sites without comment sections” I would laugh out loud in their presence. Doubly so if they proposed creating a youtube channel to illustrate that point.
Re:Amazon Removes Books from Kindle Unlimited After They App... by maxbond on Monday February 27, 2023 @04:48PM (#34962359)
Let's not be mock people when they say stuff out of frustration. That's just pushing people's buttons. We've all gotten frustrated and said something silly like that. No need to rub it in. You could've made the same point in a constructive manner.
Re:Amazon Removes Books from Kindle Unlimited After They App... by braingenious on Monday February 27, 2023 @06:13PM (#34963367)
I stated a fact. He decided to call people that disagreed with him “tardations”.

I am not a big fan of time policing, but may I suggest you try to correct the folks using childish names rather than suggesting they be treated extra nice?

Re:Amazon Removes Books from Kindle Unlimited After They App... by maxbond on Monday February 27, 2023 @06:31PM (#34963577)
I actually tried to respond to it but it was flagged before I finished typing. I have several comments in this thread that are critical of them.

I'm not defending their insults, but I take issue with you responding to them in an inflammatory way. It's not okay to stir someone into a temper, and then when they react badly, weaponize that against them.

Someone behaving badly in conversation is not license to treat them badly. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

My suggestion to you would be to flag insulting comments and move on rather than trying to be hurtful to someone who was hurtful to you. I try to abide, as a personal rule, to respond respectfully or not at all. I don't always succeed at this.

Re:Amazon Removes Books from Kindle Unlimited After They App... by braingenious on Monday February 27, 2023 @08:45PM (#34964647)
When somebody bursts into a normal thread like Kramer from Seinfeld and starts spouting genuinely odd, angry and fully off-topic nonsense, I see no issue with pointing out the fact that that behavior is in fact childish to the point of being comical.

How many paragraphs were you prepared to write to admonish that poster? This bit of policing is kind of strange to me.

My genuine feedback to you: Your very detailed analysis of my posts was not asked for, and calling me a jerk and a bully is not going to engender a working conversation between us in the same way that if I said “holier-than-thou backseat moderator” wouldn’t encourage you to engage in a real dialogue either.

Respectfully, in the future please try to curtail your impulse to impose your personal rules on me. I am not open to your coaching. Any further criticism of me is wholly unwelcome, will not be applied, and I’ll just have to ignore our respond to it in the same way I decide how to engage with any other pointless off-topic emotional nonsense.

Re:Amazon Removes Books from Kindle Unlimited After They App... by maxbond on Monday February 27, 2023 @08:51PM (#34964690)
I'm sorry if what I said bothered you. I will stick to responding to your criticism of me, and not include any further criticism of you in this response.

I don't think I'm better or holier than you, I regularly fail to live up to what I'm suggesting. I'm not trying to impose anything on you; everything I said was a suggestion, and I interpreted your offering me advice as an invitation to offer advice in return.

Much like you feel you have license to tell people they are childish when you judge it appropriate, I feel I have license to tell people they are being rude when I judge it appropriate. Both of us are expressing our view of how people should behave in this community, "back seat moderating" if you will.

Thank you for your feedback. Have a great rest of your day.

Re:Amazon Removes Books from Kindle Unlimited After They App... by braingenious on Tuesday February 28, 2023 @02:16AM (#34966561)
> Let's not be mock people when they say stuff out of frustration.

The first thing you said to me was a condescending command. lol at “inviting advice in return”

Buddy you showed up to backseat mod in the first place. I’ve just asked you to personally leave me alone with the (from my perspective) kind of silly decorum police nonsense. I did not come out of nowhere and tell you how to interact with other people. That’s kind of a significant difference.

Re:Amazon Removes Books from Kindle Unlimited After They App... by maxbond on Tuesday February 28, 2023 @03:02AM (#34966835)
"Let's not" is a suggestion, not a command. I chose "let's" for that reason specifically.

I don't see why you feel it's condescending to ask you not to mock people, and I'm sorry you feel patronized - but you told someone you'd "laugh in their face" and called both of us "buddy". You're being condescending on purpose because you feel it's warranted - you said as much ("I see no issue with pointing out the fact that that behavior is in fact childish to the point of being comical").

You're free to say whatever you please, but I don't see why a different standard applies to me. The same goes for "lol at advice in return" - it's not clear to me why you think the notion that I might respond in kind is laughable. For that matter, that also goes for your criticism that I'm sharing thoughts in a way that's not conducive to productive conversation - was laughing in their face conducive?

You "came out of nowhere" to tell this person you had a problem with the way they were interacting with the forum as much as I did. No one gets invitations here, we all come out of nowhere. Again, I don't understand why there should be a different standard.

The real difference here is that we view our own behavior as justified and each other's behavior as excessive. I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree on that one.

Re:Amazon Removes Books from Kindle Unlimited After They App... by braingenious on Tuesday February 28, 2023 @03:17AM (#34966935)
> "Let's not" is a suggestion,

No it isn’t, it’s a command dressed up in lazy condescension.

Lol, again, buddy, this is super silly to the point of being sincerely comical!

Re:Amazon Removes Books from Kindle Unlimited After They App... by ipaddr on Monday February 27, 2023 @04:24PM (#34962055)
Why remove the link here where people can comment?
Re:Amazon Removes Books from Kindle Unlimited After They App... by code_duck on Monday February 27, 2023 @04:11PM (#34961914)
We can comment about it here?
Re:Amazon Removes Books from Kindle Unlimited After They App... by markdown on Monday February 27, 2023 @04:15PM (#34961950)
Me too. How else am I to know how I'm supposed to react to the news?
Re:Amazon Removes Books from Kindle Unlimited After They App... by nirvgorilla on Monday February 27, 2023 @04:17PM (#34961978)
No. The problem with news websites is they often don't even link things.

For instance: News story said "The 32-page manifesto of the mass shooter went into detail about how he hated every fast food employee." and then they don't link to the downloadable manifesto for us to read. We have to rely on comments for someone to actually post the link.

Same thing with torrentfreak. They TALK about kindle books being pirated but they're not linking them. You'd find the link in the comments. Yeah. THE LINK.

Re:Amazon Removes Books from Kindle Unlimited After They App... by jehb on Monday February 27, 2023 @04:21PM (#34962023)
I think this is a classic case of one person's bug being another person's feature.
Re:Amazon Removes Books from Kindle Unlimited After They App... by brewdad on Tuesday February 28, 2023 @11:34AM (#34971292)
Please link us to your manifesto. They way you are ranting on about the most inane "fault", I'm sure you have one.
Re:Amazon Removes Books from Kindle Unlimited After They App... by nirvgorilla on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @04:52AM (#34980535)
You wouldn't speak to me this way in voice so don't type it you disingenuous panda "lover."

(Sure wish I could use the word I really want to use there.)

Re:Amazon Removes Books from Kindle Unlimited After They App... by rideontime on Monday February 27, 2023 @05:32PM (#34962928)
You seem to care very passionately about getting free stuff.
Re:Amazon Removes Books from Kindle Unlimited After They App... by bigbillheck on Monday February 27, 2023 @08:56PM (#34964720)
> I want to read people's comments on any news stories whether the website likes them or not

Takes all kinds in this world, I guess.