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Re:Official Warning: Bryan Kirk (Zero3K) by csilverman on Saturday January 21, 2023 @06:28PM (#34471979)
Speaking as someone who was stalked by a former acquaintance with mental illness: yeah, I realized the person didn't choose this, and I didn't judge them or wish harm on them. But they were also harassing friends and family members, and it got to the point where I had to send this person's photo/name/phone number to a number of people I cared about, and warn them to avoid any contact.

I don't wish any harm on Bryan, but it sounds like the guy is a textbook stalker—unstable, obsessive, and potentially dangerous—so I absolutely understand why things have reached the point where others need to be warned about him.

Re:Official Warning: Bryan Kirk (Zero3K) by ezekiel68 on Saturday January 21, 2023 @06:28PM (#34471985)
> People often don't chose to be as they are.

That's true but what does it have to do with the price of tea in China? The commenter raised a valid point that we may need to decide to compartmentalize for the sake of our own well being. This does not necessarily imply any measure of judgement against the other person.

Re:Official Warning: Bryan Kirk (Zero3K) by pwdisswordfish9 on Saturday January 21, 2023 @08:18PM (#34473005)
Why are you blathering about tea?
Re:Official Warning: Bryan Kirk (Zero3K) by krastanov on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @09:59AM (#34518997)
Re:Official Warning: Bryan Kirk (Zero3K) by Waterluvian on Saturday January 21, 2023 @06:24PM (#34471932)
I don’t tolerate abusive people.
Re:Official Warning: Bryan Kirk (Zero3K) by throwaway2214 on Saturday January 21, 2023 @06:26PM (#34471958)
You probably are considered abusive to someone, you might not even know it.
Re:Official Warning: Bryan Kirk (Zero3K) by Waterluvian on Saturday January 21, 2023 @06:33PM (#34472046)
I have absolutely been abusive at times growing up and probably in my professional life. I’ve been put in my place many times. And I learn and grow from that. I was not a perfect teenager and I’m definitely not a perfect adult.

I hope people wouldn’t tolerate it if I did it to them.

Re:Official Warning: Bryan Kirk (Zero3K) by serf on Saturday January 21, 2023 @06:48PM (#34472239)
but I hope you understand that if no one did tolerate the abusive then our psych wards and hospitals would be about half as full, right?

That isn't to say that half didn't need help -- it's that humans who need help can be abusive.

So.. what do we do with them? Ignoring these people is about the same fate as 'compartmentalizing' them into a wood-chipper -- doomed.

Re:Official Warning: Bryan Kirk (Zero3K) by menzoic on Saturday January 21, 2023 @06:25PM (#34471947)
That doesn't mean you need to suffer. Reality is harsh. Cutting out toxicity is required.
Re:Official Warning: Bryan Kirk (Zero3K) by rahoulb on Saturday January 21, 2023 @06:39PM (#34472121)
Agreed.

My friend was stabbed by a schizophrenic who lived in the flat opposite and believed that my friend was stalking him. Ten years later and my friend still has virtually no feeling in his hand as the nerves did not grow back correctly and he had to give up being a professional musician.

I know the guy didn't choose to be the way he was and I'm sure what was going through his mind was hell. But that doesn't mean that the rest of us should just live with the consequences of harmful actions.

Re:Official Warning: Bryan Kirk (Zero3K) by serf on Saturday January 21, 2023 @06:52PM (#34472278)
>I know the guy didn't choose to be the way he was and I'm sure what was going through his mind was hell. But that doesn't mean that the rest of us should just live with the consequences of harmful actions.

ok, but aside from a time-machine and time-cops, what do we do?

We 'compartmentalize' the ill out of our lives -- they don't just disappear, they roam the streets and poorly interact with societies ..

-OR-

certain professionals sacrifice aspects of their lives in order to facilitate treatment and professional isolation for such individuals in an effort to keep them off the street and out of interactions with regular society.

which one results in less violent crimes towards regular citizens?

It should be obvious to anyone with their eyes open that someone has to interact with these people to provide rehabilitation and growing potential for people in need.

Re:Official Warning: Bryan Kirk (Zero3K) by rahoulb on Sunday January 22, 2023 @06:35PM (#34483551)
> certain professionals sacrifice aspects of their lives in order to facilitate treatment and professional isolation for such individuals in an effort to keep them off the street and out of interactions with regular society.

That was literally my dad’s job. In the UK in the 80s they implemented a policy called “care in the community” which was about ensuring that people with serious mental health issues were not institutionalised. For the most part this was a good thing but my dad actually made the decisions over the care and freedom they would receive. Eventually he quit because he felt too many dangerous people were being released - and in the end worked at Rampton, which is a prison hospital, looking after serial killers.

Re:Official Warning: Bryan Kirk (Zero3K) by henvic on Saturday January 21, 2023 @06:29PM (#34471986)
wow! The trolling escalated quickly! Are you trying to demonstrate his point?
Re:Official Warning: Bryan Kirk (Zero3K) by serf on Saturday January 21, 2023 @06:55PM (#34472316)
which point?

the point that OP made that the negative should be cut from your life, or the greater point that if the entire world cuts the negative from their life then those people -- 'the negative' -- are doomed to roam the world and be negative towards the rest of the world ad nauseum?