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Re:Most young men live in quiet desperation, is it possible ... by superdeeda on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @03:10PM (#34418138)
What are these so-called male-bashing cartoons, films, etc.? Are any of the Marvel or DC series male-bashing, for example? Avatar? James Bond? Video games like Fortnite?
Re:Most young men live in quiet desperation, is it possible ... by korroziya on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @03:26PM (#34418401)
I am not required to spoonfeed you something so easy to find. You either choose to pretend what I said is not true, or you're so biased you're unable to see it for what it is.

If the latter, your inability to spot the extremely prevalent male bashing in the vast majority of mainstream media does not prove its nonexistence.

Re:Most young men live in quiet desperation, is it possible ... by feoren on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @03:38PM (#34418604)
"I refuse to provide even a single piece of evidence because it is too abundant". This is frightening mental gymnastics. This is, like, cult-level thinking. Whatever virus your brain has caught is really a dangerous thing.
Re:Most young men live in quiet desperation, is it possible ... by polotics on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @04:09PM (#34419175)
Spoonfeeding services here: Peppa Pig has adult-males bashing: Daddy Pig is clueless and fat. Paw patrol: adult males are either absent (main character has no dad) or very far from the action and in need of help, or they are doofu baddy. Many other absent dads in eg. Timmy, Masha, Gabby's dollhouse, PJ Masks (also with mostly inane adult males) Bluey's dad is kind of a role model of a well-functioning nice and cool adult male, but he has to be a dog, not a human.
Re:Most young men live in quiet desperation, is it possible ... by orblivion on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @04:42PM (#34419729)
Let your guard down a little and check out some opinions you disagree with. The world is actually really complicated out there.
Re:Most young men live in quiet desperation, is it possible ... by grundoon on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @03:16PM (#34418236)
You are begging the question.[1] The question wasn't "what is the cause?" but rather "what is the solution?" which you fail to answer, as in: how can we prevent "the media" from pushing faux moral intellectualism? Note, I'm not addressing the question of whether that's the true cause or not. But, assuming it is -- what can be done about it? Is calling out "the media" on HN enough?

[1] in the older sense of the phrase; nowadays most people use it differently, but it originally meant ~"answering without really answering".

Re:Most young men live in quiet desperation, is it possible ... by smoldesu on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @03:07PM (#34418072)
Perhaps the problem is that all secular thinking is bad, and teaching young men and women to blindly follow is always a bad idea, even with good role models. If you don't learn to think for yourself and contextualize what you see/hear, you've got pretty bad odds at being a good adult.

And that's just a problem on both sides of the aisle. It will probably continue to dominate modern politics, until improving democracy becomes more profitable than making people argue passionately.

Re:Most young men live in quiet desperation, is it possible ... by the_only_law on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @03:12PM (#34418182)
> Perhaps the problem is that all secular thinking is bad

> and teaching young men and women to blindly follow is always a bad idea

Uh huh? Sounds like you’d have no problem with blind following as long as it aligns with your beliefs.

Re:Most young men live in quiet desperation, is it possible ... by xboxnolifes on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @03:57PM (#34418957)
You're just invoking the intolerance paradox. Also, you're logic is not sound. There is no evidence that the second claim came from blindly following beliefs.
Re:Most young men live in quiet desperation, is it possible ... by the_only_law on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @04:08PM (#34419163)
What the hell are you even trying to say.

I never once claimed that there’s evidence that “teaching young men and women to blindly follow is always a bad idea” came from blindly following beliefs. That doesn’t even make ducking sense? Are you good? You seem a bit out of it. If you’re going to reply, at least make it comprehensible. Also tolerance was not even in my mind when I wrote that so take your blind copy/paste buzzwords back to Reddit.

Re:Most young men live in quiet desperation, is it possible ... by feoren on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @03:25PM (#34418384)
So, many [citation needed] tags to add here. Multiple per sentence. None of this is supported by any evidence whatsoever. None of this holds up to a cursory examination of modern society. Literally none of this is based on anything. But it feeds your anger. It feeds your persecution complex. It makes you feel morally justified to be an asshole. It's their fault I voted for Trump. It's their fault I listen to Andrew Tate and Jordan Peterson. It's their fault I sexually harass women. It's their fault I hate Jews. It's their fault I'm a fascist neo-Nazi. It's their fault I send death threats to the parents of school-shooting victims. Any action is justified, because of them. Evidence not necessary, because it just feels so good.
Re:Most young men live in quiet desperation, is it possible ... by korroziya on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @03:27PM (#34418424)
Thank you for proving my entire point.
Re:Most young men live in quiet desperation, is it possible ... by feoren on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @03:33PM (#34418525)
So saying "There is no evidence for your claims" is proving your point? Any claim you make is proven true by the very fact that others strongly disagree with it? Up is down, white is black, and truth has no meaning anymore? You're already very far gone, then. This is not a healthy mental state.
Re:Most young men live in quiet desperation, is it possible ... by korroziya on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @03:36PM (#34418577)
Your need to mention Trump, racism, use of the term "asshole" proved exactly what I was talking about. Enjoy continuing to be wrong, I'm not going to waste any more time giving you my perspective.