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Re:An X11 apologist tries Wayland by loudmax on Monday September 19, 2022 @08:24AM (#32897366)
I'd be reluctant to attribute Gnome development to malice when it can quite easily be explained by incompetence.

Fortunately, Linux has desktop alternatives that are better than Gnome. In fact, you'd be hard pressed to find an alternative that isn't better than Gnome.

Re:An X11 apologist tries Wayland by yunohn on Monday September 19, 2022 @07:22AM (#32896868)
> it's an infiltrated project.

By whom… exactly?

Re:An X11 apologist tries Wayland by sprash on Monday September 19, 2022 @07:50AM (#32897076)
Whoever wants to sabotage the Linux Desktop, or more precisely a community developed Linux Desktop. The biggest sponsors of GNOME are IBM and Google. Who knows what their agenda ist.
Re:An X11 apologist tries Wayland by yunohn on Monday September 19, 2022 @08:20AM (#32897320)
You’re right, IBM & Google have teamed up to brainwash and secretly hire all the OSS developers for GNOME. Their goal is to stealthily undermine the Linux Desktop by implementing other half baked OSS tech in place of currently broken OSS tech, all while the public is bamboozled.

/s just in case…

Re:An X11 apologist tries Wayland by sprash on Monday September 19, 2022 @09:18AM (#32897894)
As somebody who witnessed the whole Microsoft "Helloween Documents" leak at the time I can assure you all kind of psyops are being pulled inside the more or less completely naive FOSS community.

The observed practices outlined in the Helloween Documents were a "crazy conspiracy theory" first as well. Until it turned out to be a very real conspiracy.

Re:An X11 apologist tries Wayland by numeromancer on Monday September 19, 2022 @09:09AM (#32897801)
Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from conspiracy.
Re:An X11 apologist tries Wayland by jorvi on Monday September 19, 2022 @07:53AM (#32897105)
> silly things … integrated menus on the window title bar

You do realize this is one of the most lauded OS X features ever?

It makes it so that whatever program your are using, you never have to dig in 4 places to figure out where the Settings or Print menu is.