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Re:Is engineering management bullshit? by ryandrake on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @10:44AM (#32751315)
> Your ego knows no bounds to assume the entire world aligns to your own experience.

Yet, you also used just five examples, presumably from your own experience, to tar entire professions.

Yes, there exist incompetent PMs, Architects, Team leads, and so on. There are also competent ones. Just like there are incompetent and competent engineers. No profession has a monopoly on bullshit.

Re:Is engineering management bullshit? by RHSeeger on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @10:36AM (#32751210)
> The field is oversaturated with incompetent PMs, team leads and CTOs.

The exact same thing can be said of programmers/developers; there are TONS of bad ones. The fact that there exist bad managers/pms/etc does not invalidate the need for good ones.

Re:Is engineering management bullshit? by zuppy on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @10:46AM (#32751346)
what you guys fail to understand is that the priorities at the micro level, are not the priorities at the macro level. of course any developer would like to prioritize having perfect code, latest tools, no interruptions, but money needs to come from some place, on time and you have to find a balance in what you put your focus on. that's what a good manager does.

it doesn't matter if you have the best product in the market, if the competition releases before you and has obtained all the clients. for the client, the task of moving to a slight better solution may not cover the cost.

just because people have other jobs, it does not make them stupid. of course, what i've said in here is over simplified, there are a lot of other jobs required in order to have a healthy, viable product with clients and cash flow.