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Re:Poll: How much do you make as a programmer? by patio11 on Sunday October 23, 2011 @12:54PM (#3146547)
Pervasive lack of transparency regarding going rates helps people use differential access to market data to exploit young engineers, pervasively. All else equal, we should probably strive to decrease exploitation of the disadvantaged side in that relationship.

Put another way: some kids are grauduating with CS degrees and taking $25k offers, because they think doing otherwise would be impolite.. That is messed up.

Re:Poll: How much do you make as a programmer? by tl on Monday October 24, 2011 @07:10AM (#3149092)
Yeah, I got stuck with this when I started out. Cost of living is low where I live and tech jobs were few. The worst part is that companies will use your salary history against you while you're climbing out of this hole.
Re:Poll: How much do you make as a programmer? by rmc on Monday October 24, 2011 @10:15AM (#3149665)
companies will use your salary history against you

Then get a new job and don't tell the prospective employer your old salary.

Re:Poll: How much do you make as a programmer? by erikpukinskis on Sunday October 23, 2011 @12:43PM (#3146511)
I honestly don't care what your salary is, but I think there are things to gain from disclosing.

For one thing, we need developers (we meaning people with unmet information needs, which is pretty much all of us) and advertising how stupidly, absurdly high the salaries are might encourage kids to jump in and give it a go.

For another, I don't really think that any of us is "entitled" to this money, and we can't consense as a group about what these salaries should be--how this money would be distributed in a just world--unless we know what they are.

Re:Poll: How much do you make as a programmer? by peterbessman on Sunday October 23, 2011 @07:36PM (#3147646)
The problem with this is that the high-end of programming salaries is the low-end of, e.g. medical salaries. Yes, there is more to it than that, but on this axis alone, programming actually does not come out on top. Those inclined to seek "absurdly high salaries" are inclined to skip over programming.
Re:Poll: How much do you make as a programmer? by erikpukinskis on Monday October 24, 2011 @01:21AM (#3148388)
So you're saying because the greediest of kids won't be tempted by programmer salaries that those salaries won't tempt anyone?
Re:Poll: How much do you make as a programmer? by tsunamifury on Sunday October 23, 2011 @12:43PM (#3146510)
ethically opposed to opening allowing fellow workers get a rough outline of what their skills might be worth?
Re:Poll: How much do you make as a programmer? by colanderman on Sunday October 23, 2011 @12:44PM (#3146514)
> I gain nothing from helping others, but everything from people helping me.

FTFY.

Re:Poll: How much do you make as a programmer? by recoiledsnake on Sunday October 23, 2011 @01:20PM (#3146644)
Then just read the comments and/or skip to the next HN story. It's not like HN will ban you if you don't post your tax returns here,