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Re:Apple’s Private Relay can cause the system to ignore fire... by olliej on Monday April 25, 2022 @02:08PM (#31158558)
Then just .. don’t use private relay if you don’t want it?

The problem being reported hear is a VPN provider (or their firewall rules?) aren’t interacting well with what is fundamentally another firewall/vpn.

I’m not sure what the usual expected behavior is when you have multiple conflicting vpn+firewall products?

Also as far as I can make out private relay isn’t a vpn? It protects http[s], and for https I don’t know if it operates outside of safari?

I appreciate the fancy language conspiracy nonsense, but please look at actual facts:

* this is not free - it is part of the paid iCloud services afaik

* it is opt in - you have to decide you want to use this, they’re not just hoovering everything, which gets to

* even if they were hoovering everything, unlike a vpn, private relay is actually private

If you are trying to conceal yourself, VPNs services are routinely found to be logging what they say they aren’t, and fundamentally all traffic through a VPN can be logged by them. Private relay is strictly better privacy guarantees for connections that go through it rather than the VPN.

This provider points out a reasonable issue: they have added rules to simply block some connections entirely, and it seems like PR should respect that - but as I said above, I don’t know what the usual expected behaviour for operating multiple VPNs and firewalls concurrently is?

finally apple documents explicitly how you can disable iCPR completely, regardless of user setting.