Man, France also have neo-Nazi batallions, we actually have articles written on this like every two years, with followup article saying nothing was done and the problem is worse (i think one divison was disolved, because they were a bit too obvious on social media). I'm pretty sure the US does too. Sadly, neo nazis are drawn to the army and as the recruiting is hard in the West, they are easily accepted. If you condemn a country as fascist because it has a high percentage of fascist in its army, all the power to you, my anarchist side would even agree, standings armies are a fascist tool. But my pragmatic side understand that standing armies are necessary, and even positive at least in the short to medium term.

The Ukrainians did not create song about their invasion, they did not force children to declare their support to an invading army. Also, i've seen a lot of reference to Makhno recently, i'm pretty sure any Neonazi would have had issues with that (well, cultured fascists would have)(yeah, nevermind, maybe they wouldn't then).

Yup. Anyone educated enough to know about Makhno would probably be too smart to be a fucking Nazi.

Sure. Here's more Russian propaganda -- straight from NBC. If this doesn't send shiver down your spine, I don't know what will.

https://www.facebook.com/nbcleftfield/videos/245171872638742...

So what's the play? Jewish people and neo-Nazis collaborating to gain power? And then later turn on each other? The Wikipedia article on them says there are Jewish people serving in Azov Battalion.

If Azov are neo-Nazis, who is their enemy? Obviously the Islamic Chechen military who have been deployed against them but other than that, who? Chechnya isn't on their border. Other Slavs? Where are the non-white people they are fighting?

Could it be that the Nazi emblems were adopted more for historical and anti-Russian sentiment? I honestly can't make much sense of it all. They may be National Socialists, but they seem pretty okay allying closely with Jews and there are few non-white people to fight.

So one battalion are extreme nationalists and definitely pretty fucked up. That hardly condemns the whole country. And in a war for survival, anyone would let them fight. I'm very open to changing my mind about any of this but I fail to see the pressing issue right now.

Some of the wackier groups that Azov recruits from don't think Ukrainians are Slavs, it's one of the ways they justify racism against Russians.