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Re:Russians are trying to flee – data from Google Trends by jacquesm on Saturday March 05, 2022 @11:30AM (#30568860)
> West countries have similar laws.

Sorry, but no, we don't.

> They even have an entire culture: Cancel Culture.

You are either unaware of what cancel culture means or you are changing the subject.

> While I hate every discrimination of speech freedom, you can't paint Russia as something unique, West is an example they follow.

I think the repression of the free media in Russia is quite uniquely all it's own.

It's the only country that I'm aware of where the head of state gets a dead journalist for their birthday.

Re:Russians are trying to flee – data from Google Trends by vbezhenar on Saturday March 05, 2022 @11:47AM (#30569083)
> Sorry, but no, we don't.

https://www.praguemorning.cz/expressing-support-for-russia-o...

https://spravy.rtvs.sk/2022/02/za-podporu-vojnovej-propagand...

I don't see any difference.

> You are either unaware of what cancel culture means or you are changing the subject.

Of course I'm aware what does it means. I'm also aware of "deplatforming" and other ways to silence unpleasing speech. Which could be described as a single word: censorship.

> I think the repression of the free media in Russia is quite uniquely all it's own.

I thought the same until Europe started to ban Russia Today and other websites. And don't even tell me that it's different. It's a perfectly legal website which tried to present alternative view point. But West is too afraid that its citizens might believe to something other than official propaganda.

> It's the only country that I'm aware of where the head of state gets a dead journalist for their birthday.

Baseless accusations. I could say that western agents killed him. It's just as likely.

Re:Russians are trying to flee – data from Google Trends by jacquesm on Saturday March 05, 2022 @11:54AM (#30569156)
> I don't see any difference.

I suspect that may be on your end.

> I'm also aware of "deplatforming" and other ways to silence unpleasing speech. Which could be described as a single word: censorship.

Well, you're still speaking, aren't you?

> I could say that western agents killed him. It's just as likely.

Sorry, but you are not arguing in good faith here.

It's funny because for sure you will see that as confirmation of your claims of censorship but all you seem to want to do is to project the weirdest kind of positions that have no support in reality and I really can't be bothered to debate if that's the case.

Not all speech is worth engaging.

Re:Russians are trying to flee – data from Google Trends by jlokier on Saturday March 05, 2022 @11:53AM (#30569150)
> West countries have similar laws

Recent Russian law: 15 years imprisonment for protesting or even just calling the war a war.

Western countries have nothing of that scale for such general offences. Neither in law nor in culture.

The nearest things I can think of are holocaust or genocide denial laws, and protest-limiting powers. There are some similarities, but also very significant differences, so I think you are using the fallacy of false equivalence in your argument: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence

Re:Russians are trying to flee – data from Google Trends by vbezhenar on Saturday March 05, 2022 @12:30PM (#30569632)
I posted two links in a neighbor thread, I'll repeat those here:

https://www.praguemorning.cz/expressing-support-for-russia-o...

https://spravy.rtvs.sk/2022/02/za-podporu-vojnovej-propagand...

Those are European countries.

I agree that probably state of freedom of speech is worse in Russia. I agree that political diversity is basically zero in Russia and all Putin opponents are either dead, imprisoned or gone from the country. That's a terrible state of things and it must be improved. Hopefully after Putin's rule, he's not eternal after all.

And if you think that everyone in Russia is going to jail for calling it war, you're wrong. Putin himself called it war. Plenty of people called it war. This is just fear mongering. And potential reason to put in jail some people if they crossed some line. At least I think so. Just as I hope that links above are fear mongering.