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Re:Delta CEO wants U.S. to put unruly passengers on 'no-fly'... by cleancoder0 on Saturday February 05, 2022 @05:55AM (#30219948)
Statements like "vaccine does not protect against infection", or "vaccine does not stop transmission" are obviously true, because vaccine cannot be 100% effective.

But the data clearly shows that spread and 2nd order effects are reduced in a heavily vaccinated population.

Re:Delta CEO wants U.S. to put unruly passengers on 'no-fly'... by easytiger on Saturday February 05, 2022 @07:53AM (#30220523)
> But the data clearly shows that spread and 2nd order effects are reduced in a heavily vaccinated population.

For the world's most dominant strain B.1.1.529 after 10-20 weeks there is no effective difference. Your church has some doctrines which you clearly don't full understand

Re:Delta CEO wants U.S. to put unruly passengers on 'no-fly'... by mikevm on Saturday February 05, 2022 @08:05AM (#30220605)
> Statements like "vaccine does not protect against infection", or "vaccine does not stop transmission" are obviously true, because vaccine cannot be 100% effective.

Are they obviously true? I present you exhibit A: https://youtu.be/jDtUWXOmLLg?t=373 This is false and blatant misinformation.

> But the data clearly shows that spread and 2nd order effects are reduced in a heavily vaccinated population.

How is this relevant? The OP claimed that anti-vaxxers are endangering people. Whom are they endangering? Other vaccinated people?

Re:Delta CEO wants U.S. to put unruly passengers on 'no-fly'... by user-the-name on Saturday February 05, 2022 @06:20AM (#30220073)
> If the vaccine works then you have nothing to worry about.

That is not how any vaccine works. A vaccine decreases the chance of a catching a disease, it does not eliminate it.

The way the disease is eliminated is by getting as large a fraction as possible of people vaccinated, so that spread is stopped.

Surely this is not the first time you have heard of herd immunity?

Re:Delta CEO wants U.S. to put unruly passengers on 'no-fly'... by mikevm on Saturday February 05, 2022 @08:05AM (#30220609)
> That is not how any vaccine works. A vaccine decreases the chance of a catching a disease, it does not eliminate it.

No, a vaccine decreases the chances of developing a disease, but they rarely if ever decrease the chances of "catching it" (getting infected).

> The way the disease is eliminated is by getting as large a fraction as possible of people vaccinated, so that spread is stopped.

This didn't work as COVID mutated and the vaccine is not effective against the new strains anyway.. But once people will get infected with Omicron this will sort itself out: https://www.wsj.com/articles/herd-immunity-is-over-superimmu...