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Re:Unvaccinated workers who lose jobs ineligible for unemplo... by huntertwo on Saturday January 01, 2022 @11:15AM (#29759763)
> The vaccines don’t work at all against omicron

This is just false and if you believe in the science, you believe in the scientific method, the scientific method shows that this is false. See this https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc211927

Plenty of people are going to the hospital with omicron so it isn't mild for everyone. It's milder than previous strains and it's especially mild for vaccinated people.

Re:Unvaccinated workers who lose jobs ineligible for unemplo... by huntertwo on Saturday January 01, 2022 @07:20PM (#29764351)
Re:Unvaccinated workers who lose jobs ineligible for unemplo... by SamoyedFurFluff on Saturday January 01, 2022 @10:23AM (#29759139)
Do you mean vaccination isn’t effective in your circle or as a population level? Or do you mean a different definition of effective? The study I linked to shows there is at least an effect.
Re:Unvaccinated workers who lose jobs ineligible for unemplo... by baskethead on Saturday January 01, 2022 @10:38AM (#29759311)
As a population they don’t work anymore. They need to produce an omicron-targeted vaccine. This current vaccine simply doesn’t work because it’s targets the wrong spike protein and it shows.
Re:Unvaccinated workers who lose jobs ineligible for unemplo... by SamoyedFurFluff on Saturday January 01, 2022 @10:42AM (#29759363)
Can you define “don’t work”? The study I linked to shows some effect, even in omicron. I’m kind of confused.
Re:Unvaccinated workers who lose jobs ineligible for unemplo... by baskethead on Saturday January 01, 2022 @10:55AM (#29759547)
Where’s the omicron data? I specifically said omicron. I don’t see anything that shows omicron especially since it’s only prevalent in the US in the last few weeks.

Ahhh never mind. You didn’t actually read the data. You just scanned through it. If you look look more thoroughly it doesn’t address omicron at all. The last data I could see was from December 14. Omicron was not prevalent at that point, delta was. The vaccine offered some, but not much, protection against infection from delta.

Re:Unvaccinated workers who lose jobs ineligible for unemplo... by huntertwo on Saturday January 01, 2022 @11:16AM (#29759774)
Here's a study from December 29th on the effect of the vaccine on Omicron in South Africa. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2119270
Re:Unvaccinated workers who lose jobs ineligible for unemplo... by dekhn on Saturday January 01, 2022 @10:58AM (#29759581)
it's unlikely anybody has truly actionable data about the vaccine and omicron yet, but companies that produce vaccines are already working against omicron targets.
Re:Unvaccinated workers who lose jobs ineligible for unemplo... by simonsarris on Saturday January 01, 2022 @03:31PM (#29762383)
Here is a definition of "work" form Portugal[1]

If you look at vaccine doses per person over time, and graph of cases per person over time, in one of the most vaccinated countries in the world, you see not only no effect, but the worst effect happening at the most-vaxxed time. If they stop transmission the effect at this point is miniscule. If you didn't label the first graph, you might be tempted to blame it for the second graph.

(nota bene, vaccines show a clear effect in reduction in death.)

[1] https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explor...

Actually Denmark has even more vaccines, and an even greater case uptick: https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explor...