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Re:Masayuki Uemura has died by sparky_z on Thursday December 09, 2021 @12:59PM (#29500702)
I assume by "that year", you mean this year, since Byuu's (sigh, "alleged") suicide note was posted in June. But frankly, the notion that there was an entire year in which not a single foreign citizen died in Japan is absurd on it's face. Surely you can point me to that press release, and maybe some news coverage of that statistical miracle.

There's also a statement given to USA Today by their employer confirming their death, including their full name (previously not public), and a new photograph of them. I suppose that was part of the con, or hell, maybe USA Today is in on the conspiracy.

https://news.yahoo.com/respected-developer-died-suicide-expe...

The things some people are willing to believe in order to absolve their own sense of guilt...

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Re:Masayuki Uemura has died by sparky_z on Thursday December 09, 2021 @01:22PM (#29500977)
OK, I've updated that sentence to be a little more neutral. Now I'm interested to to hear your response to the rest of what I wrote.

What is the Japanese government agency that provides reports about the number of foreign nations who die on Japanese soil, and where is the report from the time period including late June 2021, showing that nobody died. And for comparison, where can I read a sample report from a time period in which the number of deaths exceeded zero?

Also, in your scenario, did Byuu completely invent the company Datapower Development for the sake of appearances, or did they merely impersonate the founder, Wayne Becket, when talking to a reporter? Or is this a multi-person conspiracy?

Re:Masayuki Uemura has died by ndiddy on Thursday December 09, 2021 @05:04PM (#29503592)
> What is the Japanese government agency that provides reports about the number of foreign nations who die on Japanese soil, and where is the report from the time period including late June 2021, showing that nobody died. And for comparison, where can I read a sample report from a time period in which the number of deaths exceeded zero?

I found this site, it’s operated by the US government rather than the Japanese government. If you look for US citizens who died in Japan in June 2021, it does in fact show that there were no deaths.

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-tra...

Note that the site only has statistics up to June 2021 and is only updated every 6 months. I thought that maybe the statistics were only updated up to the beginning of June but I tried another country (Mexico) and there was a death listed on June 28 so it seems like they’re up to the end of June.

Re:Masayuki Uemura has died by GhettoComputers on Friday December 10, 2021 @03:30AM (#29507721)
In sure this will convince the skeptics that there’s no evidence. I’m in another thread about facts not changing people’s minds though haha.
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Re:Masayuki Uemura has died by sparky_z on Thursday December 09, 2021 @01:43PM (#29501221)
The article includes a direct quote from Beckett.

"I'm very very angry – furious with Kiwi Farms," Beckett told USA TODAY. "I just want them to appreciate the gravity of what they've done. They certainly contributed to (Ginder's) death. ... They were quite precious to us. How do you replace the irreplaceable?"

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Re:Masayuki Uemura has died by RealityVoid on Thursday December 09, 2021 @03:55PM (#29502800)
This comment is hilarious, considering context.
Re:Masayuki Uemura has died by modulusshift on Thursday December 09, 2021 @01:45PM (#29501259)
If you're going to base your entire argument on a document you haven't produced, believing you would also make me gullible.
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Re:Masayuki Uemura has died by modulusshift on Thursday December 09, 2021 @02:02PM (#29501485)
Cool, now you're just denying reality, the activities of those harassers towards them and other people are public record, so I rest my case.
Re:Masayuki Uemura has died by ipodopt on Thursday December 09, 2021 @12:47PM (#29500559)
On June 27, 2021, Near posted a suicidal note on Twitter, disclosing the extent of the harassment they had faced from the website Kiwi Farms. Héctor Martín Cantero later announced he had confirmed Near's death with the police. One month later, their death was confirmed by their employer to USA Today.[12] Near was non-binary.[13][14][15][12]

I found this on wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higan_(emulator).

I believe the "he faked his death" theory was started by those same people on Kiwi Farms: https://kiwifarms.net/search/11124242/?q=byuu&o=relevance

Re:Masayuki Uemura has died by user-the-name on Thursday December 09, 2021 @03:22PM (#29502442)
> I believe the "he faked his death" theory was started by those same people on Kiwi Farms:

It absolutely, 100% is. Kiwifarms is absolutely vile, and will spread any lie that serves their purpose and masks how despicable they are.

Trust absolutely nothing that comes out of Kiwifarms.

Re:Masayuki Uemura has died by RealityVoid on Thursday December 09, 2021 @03:56PM (#29502825)
Really naive question here, but... what _is_ their purpose? Do they have some sort of binding ideology?

LE: I just... googled them and looked at the wiki. What the fuck? This is just... way worse than I imagined, at first glance. They seem to celebrate their targets commiting suicide and their whole goal is harassing people. In this, i think they are waaay worse than politically motivated harrassers, at least the politically motivated ones want some sort of end result that is, in their twisted view, better than the status quo. Kiwifarmers seem to just want to destroy people. What the fuck.

Re:Masayuki Uemura has died by user-the-name on Thursday December 09, 2021 @05:22PM (#29503797)
It is absolutely sick. And they build up these huge elaborate structures of lies to convince themselves that actually, they are the good guys and whoever they are going after deserves it. They don't care at all about truth when doing this, they will just latch onto anything and twist it to justify what they are doing.

It's basically a shared mental illness enabled through the internet. Absolutely terrifying.

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Re:Masayuki Uemura has died by user-the-name on Thursday December 09, 2021 @06:52PM (#29504789)
This is a massive, gross misrepresentation. And you need to leave that site now, forget every lie its told you, and try to comprehend just how evil and damaging it actually is.
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Re:Masayuki Uemura has died by andruc on Thursday December 09, 2021 @01:50PM (#29501312)
For someone who wanted to be left alone, it's very strange to me how their death is under so much scrutiny.

Dead or alive, Near is gone. Let them rest.

Re:Masayuki Uemura has died by sparky_z on Thursday December 09, 2021 @01:50PM (#29501318)
I assume you're referring to the USA Today article, which did, in fact, include a quote.

You do realize that obituaries don't just happen? Your loved ones (or your estate, etc) have to pay the newspaper to run them. If they don't, then nothing happens. There's no government agency out there making sure everybody gets an obituary.

Here's my question to you. Show me an example of the "documentation" you want for somebody, anybody, else. If it's public information that's so easy to find, I'm sure you'll have no trouble at all pointing to an example. After all, people die in Japan everyday.

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Re:Masayuki Uemura has died by sparky_z on Thursday December 09, 2021 @03:57PM (#29502831)
Occam's Razor, dude. On the one hand, a non-binary person killed themselves after being bullied, which is regrettably more common than it should be. On the other hand, you have an (at least) 3-person conspiracy to fake Byuu's death, not to mention get them a new legal identity since they've already publicly declared "David Ginder" to be dead.

I've presented corroborating evidence, in the form of the newspaper article. I'll admit it's not absolutely ironclad, but it would not be trivial to fake. Under the circumstances, it's more "official" evidence than I would expect from any other death of an American national living in Japan, all else being equal.

Meanwhile, in this thread, you've made several falsifiable claims that haven't been borne out. Starting with the claim that there is affirmative Japanese documentation that no Americans died in Japan during the relevant time period. Still waiting for you to back that one up. Then you claimed that the journalist didn't provide an official quote from Byuu's employer, which they clearly did. Now you're gone from claiming that we don't have sufficient evidence one way or the other to saying I should "be happy that Byuu is still alive". Where's your documentation for that claim?

You seem very invested in convincing other people on the internet that Byuu faked their death. I'm pretty sure that if I were able to produce a death certificate, that you would just move the goalposts again and say that there's no proof that David Ginder was really Byuu. (Or would you commit now to accepting a death certificate for David Ginder as proof that Byuu was cyberbullied into killing themselves?)

Re:Masayuki Uemura has died by modulusshift on Thursday December 09, 2021 @01:42PM (#29501210)
First off, "that year" is this year, so you're boldly claiming there's a document claiming a lack of deaths in a whole year that hasn't ended yet.

But even assuming such a document exists, do you have evidence that he hadn't naturalized and therefore would have given up US citizenship as part of that process?

Re:Masayuki Uemura has died by umvi on Thursday December 09, 2021 @11:49AM (#29499670)
Are you claiming he faked his own death to escape his harassers? It is true it's hard to find concrete evidence of his death - the sole source of information is a twitter thread from "Hector"[0].

[0] https://twitter.com/marcan42/status/1409176583433179137

Re:Masayuki Uemura has died by AussieWog93 on Thursday December 09, 2021 @05:30PM (#29503884)
>the sole source of information is a twitter thread from "Hector"[0].

Mate, Marcan is not just some guy called Hector.

He's one of the most respected guys from the homebrew scene, and semi-(in)famous in electrical engineering circles too!

Not saying the thread is true, but the guy sharing it isn't a nobody.

Re:Masayuki Uemura has died by GhettoComputers on Thursday December 09, 2021 @12:07PM (#29499986)
There is no evidence aside from a Twitter image, and heresay with no records.
Re:Masayuki Uemura has died by sparky_z on Thursday December 09, 2021 @01:14PM (#29500895)
What records would you expect there to be that aren't there?
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Re:Masayuki Uemura has died by modulusshift on Thursday December 09, 2021 @01:53PM (#29501349)
You seem to have no idea how obituaries work, you usually have to pay a newspaper to carry them, they aren't automatic, and if the news is published widely enough in the relevant communities why would you bother to pay for it? As for government records, vital records are often limited to people with an interest, such as family members, they aren't usually offered to the public. And why would such a person publish that record online? You might as well be claiming David Bowie didn't really die, I've never seen his death certificate.
Re:Masayuki Uemura has died by tremon on Thursday December 09, 2021 @02:34PM (#29501849)
Obituaries aren't official records, they're media statements. The official records are kept in a civil registry, which usually isn't open to the public until X years have passed (obviously this differs by nation; in NL, death records don't become public until after 50 years).