> Please edit the username involved out of your post

I'm not sure I see the point given how comment deleting works on HN.

You can only delete HN comments that have no responses, and that user's comment has a response tree of sufficient breadth and depth that it seems unlikely that everyone who has responded will delete their comments before the 2 hour edit/delete window passed.

The usual convention if you want to delete a comment but replies are stopping you from doing so seems to be (if the 2 hour window has not closed) to edit it to say "[deleted]" or something similar.

That still leaves your name on it, and so I don't see how having your name also mentioned in one of the replies is going to make anything worse.

Ah, if kentonv can't delete his comment due to replies, he's already doxx'd, so yeah, no point.

Thanks for clarifying that!

Cloudflare employees are always very active and open on HN... kentonv is a well known commenter here, and is well known as the tech lead for workers. I don't think he needs your help here.

dude, he doesn't care. he doesn't need your help. his dox are already on the internet. a guy like him is going to stand behind the statement he made, and be willing to push back against management.

Yes. But... I don't think I made any statements against my own management here. Are people reading something anti-Cloudflare in my comment?

No, it reads mildly anti-fastly. I think I assumed you'd be talking to management about the tos since you weren't aware of it.

TL;DR characterizing the situation as mud-slinging seemed way off key from a disinvested party's perspective. Your mileage may vary, there's no absolutes, and you certainly have enough experience in the industry and being in the public eye that generic advice isn't necessarily valuable here, as our friend points out.

To your point, maybe it is a problem.

Who knows. Life is messy, and pitching absolutes that you pretend are clear to everyone else in order to intensify criticism of a person for having any thought at all, actually only makes it harder to everyone else. (this is response to our friend here, not you)

I just replied to your initial post here: noted there, and noting here, the situations a little bit different, for the first 20 minutes after he posted, we all weren't clear on who he was and gave advice as if it was the median situation.

I'm not sure why you're continuing to react strongly and personally to me. We shouldn't expect everyone to know everyone involved on a first name basis, immediately. We can't subject everyone to 21 questions about their personal and work history before responding to them, as that would also be rude. The replies in the first half hour all didn't have the context you had, and have now provided to the thread, and we universally reacted the same way. Mine more measure and polite, hence why its ranked highly and getting tons of replies now that activity has settled in.

No. It's a public forum, nothing egregious was said, and I quoted nothing.

And I'd be annoyed too, if I was working my ass off on a project, and continually seeing marketing measures being posted that I didn't think were valid.

But marketing lies (the engineering term) by figuring out when a lie isn't a lie (the legal term). It's literally their job. No news there.

Why are you policing HN comments? Let people post as they wish; I would assume most people posting in these discussions as intelligent adults with enough agency to understand their decisions.

what are you even talking about. you mean the reference to kentonv? as stated, kenton is the tech lead for a major cloud project (as well as a respected open source developer). It's pretty clear from watching what he says that he is generally makes wise statements, while also providing some useful color (for which I am eternally grateful).

I did not, and do not, reference the username involved in any of my posts, until now.

The first 3 replies to Kenton, including mine, don't recognize Kenton immediately or on a first name basis just from their account name. So, we all reacted the way people react to the generic situation at hand: be careful, you're attaching your name and position to something that further commits your employer to a narrative you're trying to dispel.

I appreciate you providing this info, between that and Kenton's replies about themself (ex. about protos and cap'n proto) its clears that he has extensive experience in industry and at big companies, and certainly knows the tradeoff they're making. That's awesome, and different enough from the median situation to obviate early advice re: commenting on your employer.

Yes, thanks for your concern but I do know what I'm doing.

Most days I wouldn't post a comment like the one above.

This was a bit of a "fuck it, just this once" moment and I'm not proud of it, but I stand behind what I said and don't feel the need to delete it.

It's pretty unprofessional.

Agreed!

Well, deletion is also prohibited as soon as anyone replies to the comment, so his username is set in stone even if he has the chance to edit it for a few hours.