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Re:Using RSS to replace social media by batch12 on Saturday September 25, 2021 @09:07AM (#28652868)
This is interesting because I passed over the word without noticing and even didn't understand even when it was pointed out. Now that it has been spelled out for me, a word has gone from being unnoticed to communicating the idea that the complaint is against. By making a larger issue about this, the objection has enabled the idea to spread giving the author more reach for his views than he originally had.
Re:Using RSS to replace social media by nerdponx on Saturday September 25, 2021 @08:52AM (#28652775)
Because the "soy" thing is an overt aspect of alt-right and toxic incel discourse.
Re:Using RSS to replace social media by jetstreamSam on Saturday September 25, 2021 @09:15AM (#28652923)
Are jokes on the debated but possible phytoestrogenic side effects of soy really exclusively alt right?
Re:Using RSS to replace social media by nerdponx on Saturday September 25, 2021 @10:43AM (#28653567)
No, but the associated cultural memes were born in and currently thrive in the overlapping alt-right and toxic incel cultures. And Luke Smith openly associates himself with the former.
Re:Using RSS to replace social media by Kaze404 on Saturday September 25, 2021 @08:49AM (#28652746)
Because Luke Smith is not shy to express his alt right political views both on his website and his YouTube channel. As long as he's free to do that, I'm free to criticize it.
Re:Using RSS to replace social media by jetstreamSam on Saturday September 25, 2021 @08:52AM (#28652773)
I would completely agree on that, if his general blog would be what was posted. But this is an unrelated informative article, which is why I don't think discrediting critique of the person is valid. Especially since the 'offenses' seem impressively minor in this case.
Re:Using RSS to replace social media by Kaze404 on Saturday September 25, 2021 @08:56AM (#28652798)
I agree that this is an unrelated article, but he opened this can of worms himself by inserting dogwhistles in it. Which is unfortunate, because the information in there is actually useful and something I would gladly link in the "Library" section of my blog. But I can't do that now, otherwise I'd be platforming speech that wants me dead.
Re:Using RSS to replace social media by jetstreamSam on Saturday September 25, 2021 @09:06AM (#28652860)
Would you care to explain to me how "consooome" and "soyware" imply your death?

In my vocabulary those are a joking reference to overconsumption and a play on bad software that serves as spyware, which social media sites arguably often are imo.

If you argue that you associate these words with people that want you dead it would seem to me that that is your narrow personal perspective. I certainly don't want you dead.

Re:Using RSS to replace social media by _dain_ on Saturday September 25, 2021 @01:22PM (#28654727)
> platforming speech that wants me dead.

can you point to a single instance where luke smith has advocated violence, against you or others?

Re:Using RSS to replace social media by pixxel on Saturday September 25, 2021 @09:53AM (#28653222)
Perhaps you’re over sensitive or you get a kick out of derailing. Either way, time here has been lost to the topic.
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Re:Using RSS to replace social media by Kaze404 on Saturday September 25, 2021 @09:57AM (#28653250)
Sorry, that was definitely bad wording on my part. But still, I think my hesitancy to platform people who openly use the vernacular of people who actually do want that is reasonable. I obviously don't know Luke Smith and have no idea on what he actually wants, but I know the people who use those words and what they want.
Re:Using RSS to replace social media by kkoncevicius on Saturday September 25, 2021 @08:53AM (#28652779)
Do you have some examples of his alt-right political opinions? I've watched a few videos of his that were recommended and don't remember anything there.
Re:Using RSS to replace social media by jetstreamSam on Saturday September 25, 2021 @08:59AM (#28652820)
If I remember correctly he's very critical of modern society and the modern human living conditions. Very disillusioned from big cities and academic institutions. Example; "modern man is a slave to his impulses and calls it freedom. Previous societies forbid giving into these impulses and thus were more free." ~see his blog

To me it seems quite conservative and always well explained but never outright alt-right.

Re:Using RSS to replace social media by Kaze404 on Saturday September 25, 2021 @09:03AM (#28652844)
I think the FAQ (https://web.archive.org/web/20180523034252/http://old.lukesm...) says it all really, especially the section where he talks about "the SJWs".
Re:Using RSS to replace social media by kkoncevicius on Saturday September 25, 2021 @09:09AM (#28652876)
After reading I think you are blowing this out of proportion by stating that "it says it all". There is a section there about his political beliefs and he says his main belief is that tech-monopolies should be broken down and society should be governed on a smaller scale. I think half of HN readers would agree with some version of that. And about "the SJWs" - he only says that people are asking him to make video about them and he is not going to do that.

Maybe I don't know what alt-right is but I don't see how this is alt-right. Just because he uses the term "SJW" ? I don't use it but I know what it means. You apparently do also. That doesn't make us alt-right, right?

Re:Using RSS to replace social media by Kaze404 on Saturday September 25, 2021 @10:00AM (#28653279)
There isn't much alt-right about that specifically, but it's clear wording that the alt-right has been using online for years. Talking about "SJWs" controlling the media and universities (and in the very same paragraph saying every "normal" person wants them "gone") and calling things you dislike "soy" are both plays in the years old alt-right playbook. If it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck...
Re:Using RSS to replace social media by Andrew_nenakhov on Saturday September 25, 2021 @12:09PM (#28654199)
I have noticed that people commonly referred to as SJW often consider everyone who is not them to be alt-right.

And yes, people sharing social justice values do obsess over it and it shows.

Anecdotal example: random article brought to me by sliding android home screen to the left about new Foundation series spent more than half of the volume addressing the diversity of the cast and lamenting that on-screen sex was showing only heterosexuals.

This can be said about almost any article about any piece of media directed to me by Google, from which I do conclude that SJWs, indeed, control the media.

(I have no personal experience with the US universities, so I can't say anything about them being controlled by the SJWs)

Re:Using RSS to replace social media by the_third_wave on Saturday September 25, 2021 @03:46PM (#28655695)
Ah, the blessings of the Google-free Android experience get proven once again by this counterexample of Google - or rather those working for Google who are in control these feeds - pushing their agenda onto unsuspecting (...?) victims.

May I suggest removing whatever stock distribution you have and replacing it with e.g. LineageOS, doing away with Google services - use microG [1] et al if you need something which depends on them - and dropping whatever "news aggregator" feed is offered by third parties? Use something like Nextcloud News [2] and add the feeds for a number of publications, both corporate as well as alternative, from all sides of the political spectrum. Compare how events are reported between them and form your own conclusions. Also give up on the hope of non-political culture reporting from corporate media, this seems to be one of the most heavily politicised areas with nearly all publications slanted towards the "left" side of the political spectrum.

[1] https://microg.org/

[2] https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/news