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Re:Why doesn’t natural immunity count in the US? by lotsofpulp on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @05:56PM (#28531966)
I would agree with you if I was questioning water fluoridation or if vaccines gave people autism.

A request to support a claim about the "long term" effects of a virus/disease discovered less than 2 years ago, in a rapidly changing environment, for which it seems pretty improbable for there to have already been robust, repeated, falsifiable studies done, is different.

Re:Why doesn’t natural immunity count in the US? by wpietri on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @06:10PM (#28532160)
Long Covid in children is an established phenomenon. Which you would know if you had typed "long Covid in children" into Google and looked quickly through the top results.

I would also suggest that if you want "robust, repeated, falsifiable studies" for "effects of a virus/disease discovered less than 2 years ago" you have set your standard implausibly high. That's not how medicine progresses for urgent things, because it's fantastically negligent. Contrast the rapid global Covid response, which saved millions of lives, with the incredible foot-dragging surrounding AIDS in the 80s. If we had waited for perfect knowledge before taking action, hospitals would have been stacking bodies in the streets.

At this stage you get papers saying things like, "A quarter of children experienced persistent symptoms months after hospitalization with acute covid-19 infection, with almost one in ten experiencing multi-system involvement. [...] Our findings highlight the need for replication and further investigation [...]". [1]

[1] https://erj.ersjournals.com/content/early/2021/06/10/1399300...

Re:Why doesn’t natural immunity count in the US? by loeg on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @06:04PM (#28532073)
Being skeptical of "Long COVID" claims around (typically) asymptomic or mild COVID cases in children is reasonable. Nevertheless, we should vaccinate children -- ordinary acute COVID is bad enough, and of course they are still a transmission vector.

Long COVID isn't well-defined in general; some large subset of it is psychosomatic. The main non-psychosomatic problem seems to be fallout from ARDS (Acute Respitory Distress Syndrome), which is directly related to severe bouts of COVID (and generally younger people have less severe COVID, with or without vaccines).

https://www.statnews.com/2021/03/22/we-need-to-start-thinkin...

Re:Why doesn’t natural immunity count in the US? by hpoe on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @05:49PM (#28531870)
I'd recommend when you decide to make claims you go ahead and provide a source rather than becoming passive-aggressive and telling someone it isn't your job to educate them.
Re:Why doesn’t natural immunity count in the US? by wpietri on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @05:56PM (#28531962)
I did not make any claims here, bub. Source: scroll up.
Re:Why doesn’t natural immunity count in the US? by alex_smart on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @06:16PM (#28532213)
If we can try to not turn this place into Reddit, that would be great.

Asking a source for an imprecise, sensational-sounding claim doesn't deserve this level of hostility.