Where did I blame the Desktop Environment? Nowhere did I state such, so please stop putting words in my mouth. I find the interoperability of my devices _great_ and I can't get that with Linux. I'd rather spend those hours tweaking servers, or projects, than some pointless (and typically subpar) Linux DE. I don't want to deal with that, as others have pointed out.

It's this thing you keep saying where endless tweaking is necessary. That is not true as I have stated multiple times. If you feel the need to constantly tweak things when you have the option to and can't help yourself that is purely a personal behaviour thing and nothing to do with any technology.

I only said this once, but I know I am not the only one. You asked, and you got an answer, on why people prefer systems where people get what they consider sane defaults. I have an endless curiosity, and if the way I need to deal with it is by making limiting decisions on purpose (while still getting a perfectly capable set of operating systems) then I will. Does my choice to limit what I know I have a weakness in mean I lack self control? I could still go after Linux and the endless dream if I wanted, but I chose not to?

An environment that encourages rabbit-holing is going to be an environment less preferred by people who don't want to rabbit-hole.

You can say that about KDE. You can also say that about "running Linux on a computer with a discrete graphics card".

I do it. (I'm posting this from a Thinkpad with a Quadro, running Fedora, and I have to uninstall a kernel module when I go traveling in order to disable it so I get more than two hours of battery life.) I chose to. Maybe you did too. That doesn't mean you need to Leap To Its Defense every time somebody says it's not for them.

> I have to uninstall a kernel module when I go traveling in order to disable it so I get more than two hours of battery life.)

Holy moly…more power to you for this, I read it with horror. I just close my MacBook lid and throw it in my bag. I hope you don’t have to travel much.

I don't love MacOS, but yeah, I bring an M1 Air with me when I travel on a plane. And my desktop runs Windows with WSL for work stuff.

Truth be told, the p52 doesn't run Linux as much anymore because it's a huge pain. Windows+WSL is good enough, and the primary reason I have a desktop replacement machine for my day job is for video processing.