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Re:Isabel Fall’s sci-fi story drew the ire of the internet by meowface on Thursday July 01, 2021 @01:07PM (#27701469)
Don't believe everything you read on 4chan. (Not at all saying this as some sort of catch-all insult or that I even have any inherent issue with 4chan or think it's bad to go there; just saying it because they definitely read/post a lot on 4chan based on phraseology, and the misleading "41% meme" is also extremely prevalent, there.)
Re:Isabel Fall’s sci-fi story drew the ire of the internet by MrBuddyCasino on Thursday July 01, 2021 @01:49PM (#27702081)
Do you have concrete points to make other than attacking the tone of the argument? Make them. I don’t assume I have reached enlightenment.
Re:Isabel Fall’s sci-fi story drew the ire of the internet by crooked-v on Thursday July 01, 2021 @03:12PM (#27703228)
You're the one making the affirmative claims here, and you haven't provided anything real to back them up. It's not our job to do research for you.
Re:Isabel Fall’s sci-fi story drew the ire of the internet by teawrecks on Thursday July 01, 2021 @01:27PM (#27701748)
I don't know if you're intentionally misrepresenting the situation or legitimately don't know. There was a time when the scientific community believed what you are suggesting. That trans people had an illness that caused confusion about their gender, which led to depression, and suicidal thoughts. But in the last decade the science has indicated something different. Yes, Gender Dysphoria is a real thing, it's possible for your brain to tell you one thing while your body tells you another, and no amount of societal acceptance will solve that; the only real known treatment is to transition the person's body to match what their brain expects.

But the depression and suicide that often happens post transition is always associated with how society reacts to their transition. After years of study on this topic, we now know the depression/suicide has nothing to do with their transition. It's brought on by the people around them who see them now that their body physically reflects the self they've always known, and reject it.

Re:Isabel Fall’s sci-fi story drew the ire of the internet by hjanssen on Thursday July 01, 2021 @12:47PM (#27701175)
It is a shame that there still exist people out there that hold opinions like this one.
Re:Isabel Fall’s sci-fi story drew the ire of the internet by at_a_remove on Thursday July 01, 2021 @12:57PM (#27701315)
It never fails to amuse me -- in that kind of bitter ironic "oh, humanity, how you never fail to become the thing you hate" fashion -- that people who once wailed about voices being silenced and certain (favored) people being "erased" or being told that they should not be alive have effortlessly rotated to complaining that someone out there should not exist.
Re:Isabel Fall’s sci-fi story drew the ire of the internet by hjanssen on Thursday July 01, 2021 @01:28PM (#27701775)
I have never said that the person should not exist. Please refrain from interpreting my comment in bad faith.

I am just sad that these opinions still exist. And I am more saddened that people think it is helpful or furthers the discussion to post these opinions. Suicide rates among trans people are definitly a topic to be discussed, but seeing the rest of the comment, I just cant shake the feeling that it was twisted in a way to support a talking point that was just _mean_ and ill-intentioned.

Re:Isabel Fall’s sci-fi story drew the ire of the internet by at_a_remove on Thursday July 01, 2021 @02:08PM (#27702339)
"It is a shame that there still exist people out there ..." is not exactly ambiguous. People, then Exist.

If you want to be taken with as much charity as you think you deserve, try "it's a shame that person holds that opinion" and then go on as to why. But you didn't, you went straight for "exists" and left it there.

Re:Isabel Fall’s sci-fi story drew the ire of the internet by hjanssen on Thursday July 01, 2021 @05:38PM (#27705202)
I think it was very clear what I was trying to say, and it was sincerly not calling for the eradication of people or whatever you are making out of it. Please stop being obtuse.
Re:Isabel Fall’s sci-fi story drew the ire of the internet by klyrs on Thursday July 01, 2021 @01:41PM (#27701966)
Contrast with flat-earthers. Despite all the proof that the earth is round, some people still believe that the world is flat, and their detractors belong to a mind-controlling conspiracy. You can be sad about folks believing that without calling for their violent eradication.